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They are mid table in league form since he took over, he’s really turned them around and rightly says they would be safe if he had come sooner. Very interesting one!

Rohl the dice on me getting hounded if he’s bad 🤣

Wednesday have definitely fallen off towards the end of the season but a lot of Wednesday fans are not that surprised, having lost their best player to a Southampton loan recall (Shea Charles) and undergoing what most would consider the beginning of a massive rebuild with 12 players leaving (inc 3 loans) and 14 players coming in with a total spend of about £5m (7 free transfers, 4 fees, 3 loans) They looked like they could nick a championship playoff spot but the turn of the year saw the results start to slip. During this period of bad form, the players have consistently not been paid on multiple occasions, the owner told the fans at a fans forum if they want him gone they should buy the club or find a buyer, and then told the fans if they have a problem with him, he would stop repaying loans and the fans can repay them. It's one of the most difficult working environments in football at the moment and Wednesday fans, whilst rightly criticising mistakes Rohl has made, overall the vast majority want him to stay and think they will go down next season if he leaves.

It's a strange one, you've said basically the same as me but come to the opposite conclusion, and yet I don't really disagree with you, i'm probably just being pessimistic on this perticular subject where I've been optimistic on our chances of promotion next season. I came to the conclusion that we are a premier league club in facilities (and running costs), but completely bloated in the Championship where if we don't manage to shift the deadwood and we make mistakes in summer could be 1 bad window from becoming a Championship club with a huge financial weight on our shoulders. It feels like the club is on a knife edge between making a few more mistakes and killing us off completely, or making a few sensible decisions around management and playing staff that could see us straight back up.

In b4 Top sells the club… to Chansiri

I’m in the same boat. I just don’t think we have the players and would be able to bring in enough to compete at the next level. With that said though, premier league survival seems miles away at the moment, we need a full reset with ALL of the deadwood shipped out and replaced with younger hungry players and that is something Martin would offer. I think hypothetically if he got us up next season, was given 50-80m to spend the following summer and we then subsequently got relegated again, he would leave us as a club in a much healthier place than he would inherit this summer, and I’d imagine it would be a club that would have a far more sustainable wage budget. I don’t want him, but I think he would improve our current situation at least

Martin is likely the perfect candidate for KPFC, he improves players technically, doesn’t go for over the hill big earners on huge wages for “experience”, has a clear identity that the club aligns with, and from a fans perspective he seems to drive standards and culture and speaks really well and honestly. But good lord I don’t want to see that style of possession at all costs football again. Martins interview with Lineker was a great listen, and he admitted to mistakes, but then went and ruined it by saying that he’s now more wedded to his system than ever before. If he’s willing to drop his philosophy he ticks every box, if he’s determined to go for maximum possession stats above all else then I’d rather gouge my eyes out. From a results perspective and a cultural perspective though, I think we could do a lot worse than Martin.

This, I think in this situation our facilities actually hold us back from a buyout. We have probably top 10 facilities in world football, but we have a squad full of deadwood bleeding money, and we are one bad window away from being in serious trouble on and off the pitch. We have to face it really. The only likely way we get bought out is if we get promoted, if fans want to reset and rebuild and potentially not get promoted next year to balance the books and lower the wage budget, that will likely be under KP. The only way I could see us getting bought out in the Championship is by one of the big Middle Eastern companies/wealth funds, they are the only ones who can afford that sort of investment for a bloated Championship club in complete disarray.

Yet another player that can only play in a very limited setup and cannot function when expected to help the team as a unit, can only play when he has absolutely zero responsibility beyond getting the ball and moving it forward, reminds me of Winks in that regard, the moment they are asked to do anything more than a very limited role they lose interest. Has been absolutely atrocious for us overall, bar a couple of standout performances. get him gone. I'd rather take a small loss on him than hold out for profit. If we have £10m to replace him, i'd rather lose £3m to get rid and spend £7m on a replacement that actually cares about the club.

Slimani gets such an unfair rap in our fanbase tbh, he cost a lot of money, but his goals to minutes ratio were the best at the club for most of his time with us, and he was a strong physical striker who made his name as a "fox in the box" striker who could win headers. Every time he came on the pitch he was told to drop deep into the Okazaki role, and he more often than not came on as a sub for Albrighton. We literally played against the 2 strengths he had that made him such a potent striker in Portugal. If we kept Albrighton on and actually put balls into the box and told him to arrive, his goals to minutes would have been incredible imo. Bit harsh imo that so many think of his as bad value for money as a player, when in reality he was bad value for money because our managers didn't play to his strengths.

I'm not really sure what to feel, because I actually knew this. I read the post on the last page that he had signed for them about an hour after it was posted. I googled his name earlier again and saw that he had a verbal deal with West Ham (a few weeks before signing for RB) and somehow completely forgot it was a done deal to RB. This club is frying my brain.

So has Banzuzi actually signed anything with WH or is it just a verbal agreement? Don't get me wrong if West Ham go back in for him in the summer to complete the deal we don't have a snowballs chance in hell, but if it's just a verbal agreement and nothing official is signed as seems to be reported, we could potentially sort a deal out. I'd imagine he will have offers though.

If I had the sort of money KP have wasted on managers I’d be dead in 12 months tops

Andre Garcia could be a top defender in future, 17 from Reading, not sure how much he would cost though.