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Well, if we're going to be facetious about it we can then look forward to the next UK government that will both make the leading problem that creates migrants an order of magnitude worse, and then refuse all of them entry and get on with business while million of other people die. Problem solved. We're due a good population crash and we don't want it to be the "right kind" of people, after all. Yep. At a time where lack of unity will only create much bigger problems that will then destroy vital resources, fueling that division still more as the bottom tier of Maslow becomes very precarious. "Die historic on the Fury Road!"

Nor is adopting a policy that would essentially abandon millions of people to their fate, which appears to be what at least some of those protestors want and therefore the other option in this particular matter. Though tbh I've absolutely no idea how any party effectively addresses the way the fabric of society is torn right now - that's down to someone much smarter than me.

To add to the above: if people want to give the current government pelters then fair enough, but it would, asking again, be nice to know which other option folks think is better and exactly why.

Honestly mate, I think they do see the signs but they've got their work cut out for them to actually do something meaningful about it in the face of all the misinformed shit designed to divide flying around right now. And I know this comes up on the regular here, but I think it's obvious that every other viable party option is categorically, empirically worse at the moment. So there's an argument to be made to get them to get their shit more together, but I don't see any other party in government at the present time being anything other than far worse for the future of everyone.

Social cohesion is a global problem tbf. There's a massive current push in the name of individualism both in terms of people and nation states, and that destructive shit is happening everywhere.

There's something in that too tbf.

The Saffers are the inverse SH counterpart of Ireland for the NH: underperform in local championships, but then always bring their best to a World Cup.

No. Too much realpolitik, not enough trousers. But it would be nice.

Of course it is. Did any other manager nearly put the club out of existence? No? That's pretty much it, then.

It isn't just the UK onboard that particular vessel and far too many of the many captains involved fail to understand that the true iceberg is even there, or that it even exists.

There is no reason for a party with a current working majority of 170+ to call an election until they are legally obliged to do so, unless they have rebellions from within their own party to the degree that they can no longer pass legislation in Parliament. That being said, 2029 will still be a crunch time and speaking personally I still haven't heard of any idea exactly why at least some folks appear to actively want the "Years and Years" timeline, but with added crop pressures due to changing weather patterns popping up even sooner for additional entertainment. Lammy did everyone a disservice by not sticking to his guns regarding members of the current US administration. Perhaps the new person will treat them more like the highly potential belligerent they are.

Honestly, having seen what populist movements have done and are doing in terms of damage around the world, I'm always going to take Farage and who he leads with utmost seriousness.

Thing is though, that alone is enough to cause enough damage to be very, very meaningful.

Don't worry, if things play out the way they might, accountability will come in the form of a rather large mob screaming "who killed the world?"

Of course. The policies of the current US administration are the policies Farage wants here, that is obvious. With all the consequences and responsibility for those consequences that entails.

... and is there any reason why Snake Oil Nige thinks there's going to be an election any earlier than 2029?

Repeated for emphasis at this time.

Exhibit A:

You're right. "Fvck Reform, selfish death-worshippers" should be the current turn of phrase. (Though I know that doesn't roll off the tongue.)

I can see the arguments here. Tbh as time goes by I become less choosy about the nature of the unifying factor too, because time is running out and the simple fact is that we need one, any one.

No, I don't believe that, and given the massive and disproportionate body of evidence of discrimination and abuse, both institutional and everyday, past and present towards people of that demographic, I'm not sure why anyone would. It's incredibly disingenuous and hypocritical to dismiss it as a "few bad apples" as it appears here. However, this is both a subjective issue and one on which I know my own viewpoints aren't impartial, so IMO folks are welcome to think that way and I will simply disagree.

I thought this a while back too, because it's clear as you say that it's far too easy for that kind of power to both corrupt and attract the corruptible. Thing is though, as the present time shows, coordinating necessary action on a global level then becomes bloody difficult. There's simply too much self interest and not enough people willing to see and act upon the long game, and in the end that hurts everyone, including them. Somehow, someway, on at least some matters global consensus regardless of nation states needs to be reached and acted upon by all of them. Whether that's through enforcement or fluffy agreement is of little consequence, what matters is that it must be done, or the consequences will be truly dire.

So it seems. I guess the only pleasure will be when the shit hits the fan to hopefully have the time to say "told you so".

This is written as if trans people didn't come in for any kind of discrimination, or abuse, or even violence and death, before the "activists" were responsible for the "backlash". So we're assuming that people without bigotry towards the LGBT community and trans people in particular, and with the motivation to act on that sentiment, aren't relevant and/or don't exist and never have? Still, I guess other minority groups would recognise that argument. "Oh yeah, I want them to live their lives, but that Malcolm X/those Stonewall rioters kick up such a fuss so you can understand people giving something back in return..."

Agreed, so see above re. fun times.