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It certainly is close, which is why 538 has it pretty much as a coin flip. But Trump has previous for beating the margin of error. For the sake of the future, let's hope it's not the case this time round.

... and then, every eighty to a hundred years or so, all of it comes to a head in the worst possible way.

Yeah, that's things as they are. Corruption is a simple fact, but the more it's accepted, the more it grows.

That's the way it looks right now, but who knows? If he does win, I just hope that I'm wrong about what it means for a lot of people short term and everyone long term, but I don't see how it plays out any other way. It's still rather unbelievable that it has come to this after what has happened before. Cult of personality and social media manipulation have a lot to answer for.

Don't worry, cold comfort though it is, if it keeps going the last laugh will be that of the Earth. No one will escape that.

If someone is viewing the matter objectively, that shouldn't be here or there anyway. It's a ridiculous irrational double standard fallacy borne by big sections of the press and social media that Labour have to be a lot cleaner than the Tories to get the same respect (that even Labour itself appear to have to have bought into for the sake of political expediency), and it should be challenged and rejected whenever it is stated.

So it turns out that paying people to vote for Trump despite putting the money through a few loopholes first might still be illegal, then. Guess we'll see what the Justice Department do. Fivethirtyeight has the latest odds at pretty much exactly 50/50. Don't see that changing much between now and the big day, really.

To say nothing of the fact that division and inequality is the reason the world is how it is now, and there's lots of room for it to get worse in the future because of it.

If the working hypothesis/thoughtline here is that the current government is either equally or less concerned than the previous one regarding environmental concerns (as well as encouraging other nations to get in line on the matter), then something more than mere assertion might be required.

Man was out there playing Stick Cricket. Still didn't get the record for fastest ton though, had to settle for equal second.

It's not really about that for me, it's about the massive pot calling kettle from the Trump team for making this an issue when they've done it themselves in the first place.

Zimbabwe score 344 in a T20 qualifying match

Yeah, but they're not part of a team actively campaigning for the most powerful policy decision making post in the world, which means perhaps there's a small difference in significance. In any case, the hypocrisy or the lies don't surprise me all that much, the threat to the future of a great many living beings the man and his followers represent has been obvious for a long time now. I would think the link would be obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. Proving it in a court of law, however might be different. Yeah, fair to say. However, if you don't think the US government decision making affects world environmental present and future in a big way I can't say that I believe you.

In that case, is mid-July during? He stumped for him in the aftermath of the assassination attempt. I would assume so. Sorry, I was being sarcastic there. The Trump team and acolytes clearly think it's different. It's darkly interesting how all those events have happened (or intensified) since 2016. But quite frankly given the power the US has, depending on issue their political decision making is far more consequential for the world (including the UK) than the UK's may be.

Funny how there's so much overlap in terms of ethos between those two groups, isn't it? The hypocrisy and projection is apparently the point. The sad (and hugely damaging) thing is that enough people buy into it.

Can't speak for anyone else, but for me the time for laughing at it all was just up to January 6th 2021. After that, it all became rather more serious. Edit: actually, scrub that, instead after Heather Heyer was murdered by a Trump supporter for simply being where she was at the wrong time.

The funniest thing is the blatant demonstration of how skewed the Overton Window is over there by the referral of a Starmer Labour government as "far left". I mean, can you imagine? NB. Internet comment find: "Starmer is as left wing as David Beckham was".

Well.... that's different. Apparently.

His last visit was as a sitting MP, yes.

I was also going to make a point about the turpitude of welcoming a leader who encouraged a coup/insurrection to hold onto power in his country, but then the UK and a lot of other developed countries have previous for that anyway.

That's entirely likely, which is a measure of the man and would show that the decision was the correct one. As before, the office deserves respect, the person occupying it (in his case) deserves none. It's possible, but even if it is I see it as at worst no worse than the ones complaining about it have gotten up to.

... like the ones stumping for the Repubs did? Oh wait... Again, this is hypocrisy and projection of the highest order even if it's fully confirmed, which should be expected from Trump and his ilk.

This is fair, but I'm not sure how much more effective treating it with the amused contempt and ignorance it deserves would be either.

As per above, the decision making of a Trump administration is going to affect the UK and everyone else anyway.

The support was clearly there regardless of how many people embodied it. You simply can't complain about "electoral interference" from foreign parties when you've had political figures from the same nation stump for you, it is the very essence of hypocrisy. If Trump wins, tbh some awkwardness between that government and the UK one will be low on the list of concerns and the UK (and everywhere else) is going to be affected by the decisions it makes no matter how what the UK government has or hasn't done. And those effects will be almost all overwhelmingly negative.