dmayne7

After claiming we don't have the type of player for the scrap (he's right). Look at Skipp's fight compared to everyone else. Embarrassing

Skipp throws his head into danger and his teammate bottles the follow up. Classic

Fatawu has fully lost it. Could have easily kept that in and run forward but played that bizarre pass back to Ricardo, all because he slowed right down

Back to the solid plan of everyone standing still whilst the 2 players with the leata quality (Daka and Skipp) do all the running

Rudkin's face on that replay

No, just that we've hurt his feelings

Was Top about to cry or laugh?

Hahahaha. In a season full of them, that's right up there. All came from Vestergaard turning back when he could have easily passed it forward to Skipp. Obvs still Begovic's fault

Yep. Won't give him slack in terms of output but at least he's one I'd never say there's a lack of effort

'The Leicester City story'

Are you joking? That was absolutely class

Good to see Daka being the only 1 who can be arsed as per

This is the weirdest game I've ever seen. More like a pre-season game or 2 teams that were relegated with a record low points tally

'Pay them off somewhat'. Not fully. So I'm talking about subsidising their wages as part of transfers to other clubs. And given almost all of them will only have a year left, mutually terminating the contract, which would mean paying less overall, will actually be a net benefit PSR wise (on its own) And the other aspect is they the financial rules are different in L1 so that's going to change how we operate. Plus, in the examples you've given, these were PL players who were not going to be able to match their wages or playing level ambitions at another club. We're now in the situation we're all of these players will think they're 2 levels better so will probably be happy to take a slight wage cut to get back to that level. None of them going to be happy rotting in L1. Most of those players have now had their PSR value written off or reduced to close to nothing so again, not the same consideration. Now this all ignores the fact that if we get rid of players, we'll have to replace them which costs money (and let's be honest, we won't have been scouting players for this level). And then of course, if we did go up, we're back under the same financial regulations so that needs to be keep in the background. Ultimately, I think we'll be lumped with many of them but not because the players don't want to go but because Top/Rudkin won't realise we need to get rid

Exactly. Some will surely go, especially given the difference PSR/FFP implications, but I just imagine the club won't see the urgency to pay them off somewhat in order to save more money.

But that should have also been the case this year. You'd think it will be a certainty this year but I worry that Top will still have his head in the clouds and not understand the gravity of the situation. Would surprise me to see many of the bigger names still here

Does Harry Winks' dad also prefer Oliver Skipp then? Would probably explain things... Think you might have misread that old chap

I never go on Facebook but randomly found myself on there and saw the post about end of season awards. Didn't see a single genuine/positive response which is totally unheard of. There's going to be some oddballs that defend KP whatever, but relegation to L1 will turn plenty

He's been frozen out for Winks really which is even more depressing

Is this genuine? He might be crap but Skipp actually puts himself about/his body on the line and even little things like he's probably fronted up for more post match interviews than anybody else this season would tell you he's not a coward

Think the physicality aspect of LL football is a myth that needs dispelling. 2 big things that separate those at the top: Mentality. whether that's making the right decision/being able to execute under pressure/being consistent. The other thing is physical attributes. Many a player has not be able to make the step up because they are not quick enough/strong enough etc. So we'll be up against weaker and slower players in general. I think it's more that the style of football is more attritional because of the above factors. Players don't trust or have the decision making to take a riskier option so will be more direct. And if they have a physical specimen, they will want to exploit that more, so again, more direct. If we had a vaguely competent recruitment team, we could roll the league and probably be in contention for back to back promotions with the development of the young players and some steel added. But we don't have that, the young prospects will leave and the culture is rotten so it's going to be total potluck as to what happens next year

No you've got it wrong. According to lots of people on here, he's a really nice lad and the massive list of misdemeanors is simply a misunderstanding. He'll be here next year as the club is too weak to get rid. Keeping him for so long is one of the worst transfers decisions we've made as it's blocked the pathway for younger players/given an excuse to not bring somebody in instead.

4 because we'll probably shithouse a draw out of somewhere, and then remember that some of these tools aren't as crap as they have been, but they're all a bunch of cowards who couldn't hack in when the pressure was on.

Did he? He's normally calm on the ball but he made Okoli's ball control look like Messi. And he gave away so many stupid fouls that were just cop outs. I would generally agree though that I wouldn't say he doesn't at least try on the pitch. But don't forget he was also frozen out for misdemeanors off the pitch/has fallen out with more than 1 manager

If anything, he gets way too much rope on here. He's been an abysmal signing when you think of the context. He was very good for 6 months under Enzo (but I probably could have done his job defensively in that team) but he was poor for the back end of that season. Yet people made out he was amazing that season but you never heard people giving great examples of his defending, they were just wooed by a guy being able to pass the football (a novelty for our team I know). The goal that Nicholas Jackson scored for Chelsea against us in the cup that season was one of the funniest/most embarrassing bits of one on one defending I've seen, and it highlighted how poor he is. He needs to have his positioning absolutely perfect since he cannot move and he's also crap in the air. And when he's not at it, he has such a negative effect on the team in terms of his pace of play. In a back 4, you should not be picking a centre back to be your playmaker anyway. He got away with quite a few yesterday where he slipped/was out of position. Gave away stupid fouls and looked like he'd never seen a football. If that was Nelson or Okoli they'd have been absolutely crucified. I think it's ok to admit that all our defenders have been atrocious this season.