dmayne7

Being aware of the longer term implications is hardly moaning is it? Every time we win a game it's greeted with derision that the manager will get a stay of execution for a number of games. I'd rather Monga be playing and getting more experience, and building up his confidence rather than a guy who is obstructing his development whilst being absolutely garbage this season.

Great goal but annoying that he's playing instead of Monga as that will probably see Monga on the bench for the next 5 games

That shot from Hamza

You're married to Patson?

Thanks for starting a new thread on the back of high quality 'journalism', that shares lots of new information and opinions

Huh? I didn't say you did think those things did I? Think you might have taken it the wrong way. Was just explaining why he gets all this hate from some. But I don't think he did an ok job when he commited multiple big errors, much like Thomas did against Sheffield United

Ironically, it's probably fueled by this kind of ignorance (don't mean than in an offensive way, just can't think of a better word!). The amount of off the field incidents, multiple games we've lost where he's been laughing and joking with the opposition, the fact he's never been good enough for us and that he's always been on a huge wedge vs his ability, and reasons why. You've then got people who blindly defend him no matter what. Thomas has been an abomination, and yes Hamza was played in an unfamiliar role, but his performance was extremely poor. Hypocrisy for him to be calling for focus from his teammates when he had multiple brainfades last night, lucky that a couple didn't lead to goals. Even for there goal, whilst it certainly wasn't his fault, looks at his positioning compared to the defensive line. Unfortunately that happened multiple times. He should be decent at this level but unfortunately he's symbolical of a lot of this club's failings in recent years.

This is a bit of a myth. He'll charge around for a bit and fly into a tackle so can't deny that. But then when it really matters, he walks around and completely switches, not even putting in the bear minimum effort required. Effort means staying switched on at all times. He just wants to put effort in when it suits him.

Well he was somehow as bad as Thomas. He's just got no discipline to every aspect of his game and that's what holds him back more than anything.

Disagree. For a modern keeper, he's very good. I think that says more about modern goalkeeping than his ability but it's all relative. At least he generally makes a decision when he comes to the ball and sticks to it

Monga was pretty poor but some flashes. Yet, he was still miles better than Stephy was and because of that assist, Mavididi probably straight back in

So undeserved. And worse because Mavididi has been total cack and will be back ok for Monga (not like he was great but miles better than Stephy has been for weeks)

He actually is though which is saying a lot

No, Thomas is crap and Hamza even worse

Not heard that one before! Whilst this is true, they are embarrassingly isolated. Monga got the ball zipped out to him and he has 4 Albion players nearby and not a teammate in sight. Makes it so easy to defend them even if they have great 1 on 1 ability

Hamza's positioning is abysmal. It's exactly why he doesn't get picked in the holding role any more

Defensive positioning there was absolutely shocking

And yet he's still done more than Mavididi has done recently

To be fair, the speed and regularity in which the ball goes forward has changed massively since Nelson has come in. But that stat is disgusting. Would make sense if it was Enzo's team but it's not like we dominate the ball

Jesus Christ. An actual team move of quality

If it's unopened that could be a great way to crack it (quite expensive mind you)

What a waste of time. He's playing major catch-up and almost certainly would have been an important player for us (if he could handle the physicality) if not for injuries. To have him at 22 never having played higher than L2 is tragic. What if things don't go well for him at Chesterfield? Will be viewed as a League 2 player at best when he could be much better than that, as the environment is key to a good loan spell.

Not got the discipline to play that role for us. And in terms of on the ball ability, I think it was really highlighted when he a lot of time on the ball to ping it out to Fatawu and somehow he managed to just float it up there which allowed the fullback to win a header, when a decent pass doesn't even allow the fullback into play. That's an example of where things can look decent (if it went straight to his man) but the difference between being able to zip it out there and float one (which most of us could do) are what decent passer of the ball can do.

I know Monga hasn't been amazing when he's come on but he should absolutely be ahead of Mavididi now. Crap performance, one after another should mean he's benched for 5-10 games minimum.

Played plenty of forward passes? Even some of those 'sideways' ones were super quick and sprayed out into space in a way no other player can do for us.