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Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Have you actually been paying attention to the last five years. Does the fact we’re in league one have disposed of 21 players and counting and signed two and have a handful loan returns not bother you. I hate using this term but could it really get worse than this. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Yeah, I’m not so convinced myself. As I’ve said elsewhere the have several creadible points and their timing is fantastic as they can now say look how good Leicester City are when they play by the rules. They shouldn’t have been anywhere near the top six I mean we do have good defence points as well but ultimately the Burnley case has set a precedent and that’s a precedent we’d need to break. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Well yes I’ve been saying the exactly the same thing as you. TLDR of that is who would want to buy us and a barn sale is going to keep us going for another year after that we’re in deep shit and all the accessible income sources have been exhausted. And that’s if Leeds fail to get 8 figures out of us. Which is why it doesn’t matter who this buyer is we need them and hopefully it goes through. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
You're over thinking it, stadium capacity is over rated compared to commercial world wide revenue these days. Leicester City rising from the flames given we do have a world wide fan base now is a good angle....and you have to remember it's very rare anyone gets involved with a football club to make money, they are predominatly play things for people who have that amount of money. Like I say if you can come up with a business strategy, have the patience to put up with what I now think will be a pretty tough season next year, deal with the overheads, work out how you can support the club without breaking FFP. It's still a good prospect, but only to a very very rich person which I didn't think we'd ever find. Like you say there are better options out there for anyone, but clearly someone is taking an interest and I'm just trying to articulate the reasons why. Without relegation to League One I always thought we'd find a buyer if Top was inclined to find one, sadly it has taken him to see the club us totally done with him in charge to do it. I'm very surprised with some of the figures being thrown around and in fact the sole fact someone is actually interested but that seems to be the case. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Sheffields a funny place mate, it’s a big city but not big enough for two imo especially as they’re both potentially roughly the same size, if you have a Notts county Port Vale or even to a lesser extent Liverpool Everton scenario it kind of works but there really isn’t much between those two it splits the city down the middle. Derby have a lower ceiling than us as well. Plus you add in the romance of the prem win, theoretically, if you have a shit ton of cash and can deal with our overheads and want to look very long term we are a decent proposition. Big risk but the potential is there if you are extremely wealthy. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
You been to Hillsborough recently? 😂 Ground needs knocking down and rebuilding -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
It seems massively over valued to me but Tommys talking a lot of sense and there is also the long term aspect of the training ground and the assets we have if they think they can turn it around and the fact King Power were never going unless they feel they got a good deal. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Just had a message through that makes it sound like the negotiation is going well, No details on who it is though. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
yeah I know he’s had a look at Derby and Wednesday among others. I’d prefer it not to be him tbh but there are worse people around from that region, far better as well he’s a dodgy scumbag, but he’s committed to sport at least and keeps his eyes on the ball. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
He’s a scumbag IMO but he’s a scumbag that knows what he’s doing at least. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Ok, I mean it wouldn't surprise me lets wait and see. As a big boxing fan not sure how I'd feel about that but at this point it's anyone but this current setup. 21 players out the door and two signed and Wout Faes is now a thing again. -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Is it actually Turki that’s being linked into the deal sorry, any evidence of this? -
Leicester City For Sale (Ongoing Thread)
Manwell Pablo replied to AKCJ's topic in Leicester City Forum
Nice to see you’re still alive 😘 😂 -
The key numbers £39m – purchase of Leicester City (2010) £421m+ – shareholder loans permanently converted into equity (2013, 2023 and 2025) £17m – purchase of the King Power Stadium freehold Additional smaller amounts through community projects, supporter initiatives and ongoing support Most likely total Estimate Type Amount Minimum proven investment £421m+ Proven investment plus club purchase ~£460m Best overall estimate ~£500m Plausible upper range ~£525m What this means King Power have effectively: Bought the club. Wiped out over £421 million of debt owed to themselves. Purchased the stadium. Supported the construction of one of the best training facilities in Europe. Funded the club through Premier League, Championship and European campaigns. Taken little money back out compared with the sums invested. The outcome During their ownership Leicester achieved: 🏆 Premier League Champions (2016) 🏆 FA Cup Winners (2021) 🏆 Community Shield Winners (2021) 🏆 Two Championship titles 🏆 Champions League Quarter-Finalists 🏆 Seagrave Training Centre development Bottom line For a club of Leicester City's size, £500 million is an extraordinary level of owner commitment. Few non-state-backed football clubs in Europe have received this level of long-term financial support from a single ownership group. The uncomfortable reality is that despite half a billion pounds of backing, poor recruitment, rising wage costs, relegation, PSR issues and strategic mistakes have left Leicester in a significantly weaker position than they were at the peak of the Vichai era. However, the scale of King Power's financial support itself is difficult to dispute. it’s a fair point, i have no quarrel with King Power as an organisation or the family in general and i will be grateful for a lot of things they’ve done and things we achieved under them if they are to sell up. My quarrel is with Top and Rudkin.
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Oliver Skipp (loaned to Charlton, official)
Manwell Pablo replied to moore_94's topic in Transfer Talk
Very basic way of looking at it. -
Oliver Skipp (loaned to Charlton, official)
Manwell Pablo replied to moore_94's topic in Transfer Talk
Though Oliver Skipp was one of our better player last season tbh, Pretty low bar like. -
They should. I've said it myself it''s a farce, we have rules and punishments in football clubs going at each other on top of it is stupid and it should have been stamped out a long time ago. Think of the argument more of our existence as a fradulant club is what stopped them going up more than we beat them southampton did this etc etc and it starts to look a lot more of a solid case. We could well have been 10th if we didn't break the rules, they'd have still beaten us twice, and gone up in second. Our absloute collapse as a football club having to work within the rules as well is a compelling bit of evidence for that.
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I'm glad you're that confident but they have weighed this up.
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The precedent has been set in cases like this though.
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And what if we lose Kenny which I believe we will, do you think many League One clubs with our overheads can afford to be shelling out 20-30 million pounds The only thing I can think that would make them settle for small amounts would be the prospect of us going into administration and therefore not having to pay them much at all or the fact they take pitty on us and settle for a small amount just to show their fan base they took some action.
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I think in the broader picture of the game this kind of thing should have been stamped out a long time ago as it’s farcical. Can’t have teams taking each other to court every time someone who was broken a rule finishes higher than them. just look at this conversation, if we lose to Leeds our case against Man City and Chelsea gets stronger, it’s just a joke.
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Think you might be vastly underestimating the amount of money potentially involved here, you’re looking at 8 figures not six.
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Won’t be considered in evidence. No offence but you’ve clearly got no idea how this process is going to work and who beat who when will be totally irrelevant. Dunno why I’m wasting my breath saying this as there will no doubt about 10 pages more of people saying things like this but I thought I’d give it a go.
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Great. They’ll more than likely win by the way and it won’t be cheap. We are so ****ed.
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VOTE FOR YOUR HYUNDAI GOAL OF THE TOURNAMENT!
Manwell Pablo replied to davieG's topic in General Football and Sport
How much is Hyundai paying Mark for this?
