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He's not really my sort of player at all but he's definitely an improvement on Soumare and Hamza, possibly also Wilf especially on the ball. I just seriously hope after getting him and Okoli for about £30m we have left ourselves room to spend at least a similar amount on a couple of attacking players otherwise we have got our priorities very wrong imo

Fell through because he failed his medical which for a player who'll turn 30 in a couple of months might be a bit of a concern depending on what exactly the problem was. It wouldn't be a free - he's still got a year left at West Ham and I assume, having gone there from Chelsea and then accepting a deal from Saudi Arabia, he probably wants the sort of wage we can't really afford. He is also a bellend. Apart from that I'm all for it

Dismantled the club hahaha **** me. No matter what he does with the rest of his career I reckon his greatest achievement will always be managing to make so many Leicester fans so upset over the course of a single season during which he won the league

I didn't say I thought he would be a good signing for the Premier League so I'm not surprised it's beyond you, it's also beyond me. There are people on this forum who watch Leicester every week and have been doing so for decades but it doesn't mean that their opinion on Leicester players becomes objective fact. You could have been born in the centre circle at Home Park and yet I would still feel quite comfortable in my position that 27 goals+assists for one of the worst teams in the division is probably not the record of someone who is "cack bar a couple of decent games", unless all 27 came in those two games. And yes, apologies to anyone coming into this thread expecting news about Fotis Ioannidis.

Mate honestly don't worry about it. My nose and ears (and brain) are ****ed so I can sympathise with not being able to sleep, it's a pain in the arse. I do a lot of whining but only when I think there is something worth whining about, and if I think something is positive I will be positive about it - I was right behind Enzo for instance and I thought the level of negativity about his style/philosophy/whatever was absurd. I wish I could be more optimistic about the season and the future in general, and I do hope that over the next couple of weeks we see stuff on and off the pitch to inspire that optimism. Fingers crossed Steve and the boys can defy my expectations and give Spurs a good seeing to for you and your little one.

Thanks mate I was really hoping you'd give me your blessing. After all, if I think Skipp isn't a very good signing and there's not enough creativity or goals in the team, the natural conclusion would be to change which team I support

I must have missed that

Midfield three of Winks, Skipp and Ndidi = goals and creativity galore. Not sure why we're looking at strikers actually because literally anyone could score a bucket load with those three supplying the ammunition. £20m+ sounds a VERY reasonable fee for someone of his extravagant talent and I think the fact we've managed to negotiate it down to such a bargain price point reflects very well on the Club and, more importantly, its Director of Football. I am so excited for the new season!

4th top for goals + assists in the league behind three players who are now playing in the Premier League, for a team who finished a point above the relegation zone, suggests to me he can't really have been that cack

I'm sure they'll cost about a tenner a pop but currywurst and butter chicken naan bread sounds banging and 0% Guinness is very nice

Guido Rodriguez a 30-year-old academy graduate then I take it

It's also probably the only way we might get to see Ricardo

I would probably do likewise. He is a better player and though I'm not enormously enthusiastic about BDR, I've got more faith in his ability to do a job on the left in the Premier League than I have in Cannon down the middle. It's also not like Mavididi has never played as a striker in his life or we'd be doing something totally weird like crowbarring a full back in up front.

Well it's definitely better than the other two. Obviously would be quite a bit better with a less crap sponsor and also imo with the shorts in that navy colour

The one thing he's almost certainly not going to do is quit - it's the only way for him to lose in this situation. Keep us up and he's done a good job with his reputation increasing accordingly. Fight bravely against relegation but end up going down and he can point to the squad not being good enough, as well as him being the ideal fit for taking us back up. We absolutely stink the place out and his position becomes untenable, he gets sacked with a nice juicy payoff while still being able to reasonably blame the board/squad. I've no doubt he's frustrated but unless he's got a better job lined up - which he won't have - there is no good reason for him to leave. A few people were convinced Rodgers would quit as well when he was complaining about the squad to anyone who would listen and unsurprisingly he came to the conclusion he would rather get paid a lot of money to **** off than do it for nothing.

If the embarrassment of getting relegated with the 7th highest wage budget in the league, having hundreds of millions worth of players walking away for free and wasting so much money that we wind up with a points deduction isn't enough to convince them something is very badly wrong, I'm not sure getting whined at on Twitter is going to be the catalyst for change

Yeah my concern is the regular changes he would make at Forest could be interpreted as him being flexible and adaptable, but it could also just as easily be him not really having any idea what he's doing and just throwing shit at the wall until something sticks. I can imagine us taking a few batterings early on while chopping and changing and then going full damage limitation 5 at the back everyone behind the ball for the rest of the season, which I can't see keeping us up or being at all pleasant to watch.

It's also just not realistic to expect a team without the very best manager and players to be able to switch between a variety of markedly different styles and be equally good at executing all of them. I can't ever remember seeing a team whose tactical setup completely changed from week to week depending on their opponent. Unless you have enormous wealth and pulling power the natural end point of the sort of "pragmatism" people want is a team that lacks any sort of coherent identity and, rather than trying to focus on doing one thing really well, ends up doing lots of different things not very well.

Well prepared for him to be the latest poor soul to disappear into the Bermuda triangle for promising strikers that is Leicester City

I don't think he's even that is he? Just played on the left of a three last season. I think the actual reasons for signing him were he's meant to be marginally quicker than our other centre backs and more importantly he's with the same agency as Cooper so we didn't have to do any scouting.

The fact there are bigger problems at the club doesn't mean that Cooper not being a very good manager isn't also a problem

Buzzing for this season. No more tippy tappy inverted full back possession nonsense, just good old fashioned pragmatism

That's part of the problem though isn't it - change of manager should not mean change of direction. The point of having a director of football is to ensure that isn't the case. If making a new appointment means having to rethink our transfer strategy and making players we signed for the previous manager suddenly surplus to requirements, that means we are doing something wrong. Then again, maybe it is actually better to have the club's direction dictated by the whims of the current manager than by Jon Rudkin.

I get people are disappointed by yet another humbling reality check but I have never really agreed with the complaints about "developing other teams' players for them" as if it's a good deed we're doing them out of the kindness of our hearts rather than a mutually beneficial transaction. The real question is why we decided to spend what was presumably a decent chunk of our budget on yet another centre back and then our target for a position of actually quite desperate need is a loan for a mid-table Premier League squad player, though with this coming totally out of the blue I suppose we can't discount the possibility we've got another attacking midfielder lined up.

You see in basically every thread someone posts something balanced and reasonable along the lines of "I think X" and then people jump on it with "so you're saying you think Y?! You're an idiot". Worrying the amount of posters who don't know how to hold two opposing ideas in their head at the same time or engage with arguments in a way that isn't completely binary, and it makes discussing things like the ownership even more pointless than it already is when you know people either haven't read what you've posted or are deliberately misrepresenting it