jayfox26

Levein?

Do you think the lads currently deserve our support? I certainly can't support a blatant lack of effort, pride, passion and fight. We've had bad players, we've had bad seasons, we've had bad results but never in my time supporting this club have the players shown a blatant lack of effort. Especially when you consider the obscene amount of money most of them are being paid. I don't include them all but a fair chunk of them are rotten. The anger from the fans should not just be aimed at the owner and Rudkin, the players deserve full on pelters as well. As badly as the club is being run, that does not excuse the players tossing it off. Sheff Wednesdays players weren't even getting paid but their players continued to give 100%, not for Chansiri but for the club and for the fans. An idea that is seemingly lost on our overpaid tossers.

If Vardy knows about dodgy stuff etc then the only way it comes out would be when he's retired and needs some more money so does a book. By which point either Top will be gone or the club will be gone so it will be null and void.

Facebook is full of Top supporters who won't hear a bad word said about the club so not sure that's the right platform either. It's very difficult to get enough people involved in these kind of things to actually make it meaningful. There are some fans that just aren't really bothered and just go to the stadium for a day out to pass the time so any kind of protest is wasted on them. There are some that a furious and want change but have just stopped going completely (I include myself in this group). There are a few that would actively get involved in protests but probably not enough to make it meaningful and noticeable.

Ah maybe I mis read. I thought he was referring to the people questioning why some of our fans still clap the players off

What attitude don't you get? You don't get why large sections of our supporters have had enough and are getting to the point where the team is just not supportable? I get the whole "through the good times and the bad" and most supporters can accept not being in the prem and can accept winning, losing or drawing but the vast majority cannot accept the basic lack of effort from many of these players. They are the highest paid players in the league and many of them are not giving 100% and that is completely unacceptable. They do not deserve any applause or praise if they cannot even try to out run, and out fight the opposition. Blackburns 1st goal yesterday summed it up. Soumare half hearted as always gives a goal away because he didn't commit to the interception and just set the goal up. That's not a mistake that's basic lack of effort which is completely unforgivable.

Whilst Marti has and continues to make mistakes with team selection/tactics etc, we really do only have a handful of players that can be relied on to either play ok or actually try. Jakub, Ricardo, James, Fatawu. The rest are either crap are just simply can't be arsed. I don't include the youth players like Monga in this but I do fear for some of their long term developments playing in such a toxic environment with so many bad eggs and no leadership in the dressing room. This for me, is easily the worst bunch of players we've ever had when you consider wages, the fact we are in the championship, and basic effort/lack of.

More people really need to do this. We'll never have an empty stadium as we still have some KP/Top lovers amongst our ranks but even if the attendance went down to around 10-15k, it would be massively noticeable. I've been saying for ages, everyone needs to stop buying merch and stop attending games, it's the only way we can get this useless owner out of the club! So long as money still comes in and the stadium is reasonably full, its business as usual for Top and his bunch of clowns.

I'm genuinely intrigued to understand the mind set of the people that clapped at the end today? Is there anyone on here who will admit it? I can only assume they do it because they've always done it and its like a tradition because nobody could actually come away from that stadium saying they enjoyed that game or they thought the players played well enough to deserve recognition. I can understand why some people choose not to boo but surely the alternative is to just walk out of the stadium. Why do some feel the need to praise a blatant lack of effort?

Have a go at emmerdale pal.

You can't have one without the other. Rudkin is here as long as Top is. His position has been untenable for years and he's still here. That ain't changing until Top goes

Report him to the police. I'd imagine he has unsavoury things on his laptop!

At this point, I think the question is Can we stay up?

I don't think Marti is doing a good job but I don't think anyone could motivate these over paid wasters to put a shift in.

Cuckold fc

He's 100% being sold. Why on earth would he want to stick around at this shit show of a club!

I've been saying this for ages. Some of our fans are complicit in our downfall by accepting poor standards and a complete lack of effort or accountability at all levels of the club. Passive FC.

I keep trying to convince myself that i don't care but the raging bad mood that overcomes me every single weekend, clearly shows I do. I hate it as this Shite club effects the way I am with my wife and kids and it's horrible. I want to not care and just laugh it of but i just can't.

What is the answer?

Put King in charge, one of the only people left at the club who actually cares. If we can't win, I'd at least like to see some fight, pride and passion and I'm sure he'd try to get that into the players although he may be flogging a dead horse with these over paid wasters

Anyone who claps at the end of this needs to sort themselves out. Should be 100% boos from every corner. When will people wake up and see it's not about the results or what league we are in, our players aren't even trying. How can anyone applaud a complete lack of effort? The highest paid players in the league and we can't even give 100% and out run or out fight the opposition. I've never felt so much hatred towards a group of players than this lot, they are embarrassment to the club!

Yep, it's not an excuse cos we are shite but the officiating at this level is beyond embarrassing. Basic simple things they can't even get right.

Well 2 of them are out of contract in the summer thank God.

Is there precedence to put every single player up for sale other than the youth players and completely get a whole new squad? Even if that's in league 1. We just cannot keep this toxic squad and expect anything to change. I understand the issues go way further than just the players but I just cannot support this group of players anymore, they are toxic and are happy to toss it off whilst being the highest paid players in the league.

Teams like Millwall doing well this season. Their players are crap but they fight, battle and give 100% every game to try and win. They know that their fans don't care if they win, lose or draw, they only want to see the players giving 100%. If any of our players rocked up playing for Millwall they would be hounded out after 1 game. I don't want us to be like Millwall, their fans are scum but I wish we wouldn't be so accepting of our players consistently not even trying. Other teams out run and out fight us every week. I don't care what league we are in or if we win, lose or draw but i just cannot support players that cant do the basics of giving 100% every week.