Finnegan

One thing I would say, at least they're ****ing trying.

I mean, he'd have to have been superman to reach that

Ruud obviously doesn't play Football Manager. Everyone knows he's fated to score against his former club.

I know our squad has very little depth but taking off your only two good attacking midfielders is honking

Always preferred the Championship anyway

Unfortunately, Cooper has done so much damage that time is running out for Ruud to start picking up points. I don't see how anyone can watch that performance and think this 11 isn't good enough to stay in the league. The parts are all there it just needs to keep ticking and improving, RVN has to recover a shit load of lost confidence and start getting the goals flowing.

This overall team performance has deserved much better end product.

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Vards was onside. Went for completely the wrong finish though, needed to just side foot that. Much, much better from Mavididi though. That's the kind of run we want.

Shit guys we're in the wrong ground, Rio has just said we're away to Newcastle

Don't hog it man, pass it round.

I highly doubt Parma have enough cash to make that worth our while. The price difference between the two is enormous.

I was responding to a comment about Daka, whose remaining book value is still around 7.

Yes absolutely but that then becomes a gamble. If we spend the money now assuming we can sell him in the summer then a lot is at risk. Whilst he could go on to be the Championship top scorer and his value doubles, it's unlikely. At the same time he could do his ACL in the last game of the season, he could simply stop scoring, the handful of clubs that want him could have new targets. January is a good seller's market because clubs have urgent needs. Sheffield United and Sunderland are hoping he gives them the push they need to get promoted, whatever the maximum is they'll pay right now is very likely to be the maximum value he'll have any time in the next six months to be honest. If he genuinely is worth more than that then you won't see it in reality for a couple of years more than likely.

I'm not disagreeing that his value probably will go up and/or that we could use him if we get relegated. But the club obviously haven't given up on survival. They clearly want to try and get a couple players in but don't want to spend what they did last time with Faes, VK, etc. The preference still seems to be sell-to-buy so we need to shift whatever sellable assets we have that don't damage Ruud's preferred team. A player out on loan deemed only good enough for a league we're trying to avoid being in is an acceptable start. Is it the optimal time to sell him? Probably not. But it's an acceptable one. Is it short termist? Absolutely but so is signing Woyo Coulibaly. I'm not debating what we SHOULD do, just saying what I think we will. What you quoted was a response to a comment about selling Daka.

I do. He's got no use to us right now and I think we want a net 0 January. A nominal loan fee for Hamza gets us Coulibaly, selling Cannon for 7 probably gives us another 2ish million, after his book value, which translates to maybe 8-10 we can spend now? People thinking we'll splash the cash now we're not being charged are going to be very disappointed. Not a lot has changed. If we survive this season we might actually be in a moderately strong position to spend in the summer but right now forget about it.

Vardy, Watkins and Toney are all exceptional athletes with either pace, power or both that took time to learn the parts of the game you can only pick up through experience and refine their skills. Tom Cannon isn't. He's like the second coming of David Nugent. He'd have to be an extremely intelligent footballer to compensate for the lack of athletic prowess in the modern Premier League and by all accounts he apparently isn't.

He's still got a book value of about 7m. He's not done enough for a club who can afford 10m+ to buy him him in January. Clubs that would be interested in him probably can't even convince him to take the wage cut let alone afford a fee that offsets our loss. If he goes anywhere it's a loan and I highly doubt that given RVN has never seen Cannon play, Enzo didn't rate him, Edouard has been a disaster and we're skint wanting a winger and a CB. Even Hamza is probably only a loan. A loan fee of like 600-800k probably covers Coulibaly this season. Just because we've had a bit of good news, doesn't mean our squad players are all suddenly sellable.

In fairness, we're an extremely tight lipped club. The only leaks generally are to the press. I highly doubt whoever gets the team sheets early has privileged information on our financials. The only other leaks are transfer related and probably come from agents.

Really, really hope so. We massively ****ed up not sending him out on a season long loan. Even if we'd had a manager who wanted to give him some time off the bench, it'd still be better for him to be tearing up League One every week for 38 games or whatever.

Wouldn't want Noa Lang within a country mile of our squad to be quite honest. Last thing you need. Whilst I think we've signed some exceptional footballers and obviously made some good deals for the club post-Pearson, one thing I absolutely do miss from his tenure is how much he and Walsh seemed to prioritise personality when making a signing. I know we made significant profit out of the likes of Wes Fofana but I can't see Pearson touching him with a bargepole and I think there's value in that, quite frankly, if you're trying to build a squad of players that are actually going to go out and fight shoulder to shoulder in the trenches to keep you in the league. Lang is one of football's most notorious dickheads. And not in a fun, Vardy-esque way. He's the Dutch Ravel Morrison.

Makes sense. Doubt we'd be bringing in Coulibaly without Hamza going out to cover some of the cost and free up a space in the squad.

Technically it isn't nothing, they'll have to pay compensation but the compensation will be nominal. That's being pedantic, though, you are still right, it is ludicrous. By all accounts, we did the same ourselves in acquiring Monga in the first place, mind, so it's probably karma in this instance.

That would be absolutely peak Ever Obliging. Might as well close down foxestalk after that.

Edouard