Finnegan

If we're that close to the wire, we're not going to be doing any deals anyway. If we're not, if we turn up waving fifteen million at some club trying to buy their footballer, I don't the relevant agents and players are going to be that alarmed.

Sooner or later Forest are going to run in to the exact same reason that most major football clubs don't play defensive, counter attacking football as a long term strategy. People start taking you seriously, parking the bus and you can't break them down and win when your plans A through Z are smash it long to Chris Wood or counter attack with pace. I know our fanbase refuse to accept it but one of the few things Top has gotten spot on is the need to transition us towards a club that recruits players and managers that are capable in possession. When Forest have a wobble, a part of that is going to be against teams that AREN'T the most obvious, scary names on the fixture list, it's going to be dropping points against mid table and lower table muck that get fearful of their form and just straight up park the bus. We've seen it ourselves.

And who are desperate for us to get one now.

This. Foxestalk is an echo chamber in which people get very hyperbolic and worked up. The fact of the matter is the average season ticket holder sees Leicester City as a club that will eternally bounce between the top two tiers of English football and as long as we're at least top-half in the Championship they'll probably be happy. We are a long, long way away from any kind of mass protest. We could get a points deduction, get relegated, get a points deduction again in the Championship next year and most people outside of Foxestalk would still just take an "ah well" view of things.

The badge is kinda cool but... my brother in christ, it's a plain black t shirt.

This comes up a lot but what exactly do you want the club to say? Firstly, you'd probably just get a bunch of lip service anyway. Secondly, if the club are "honest" and go "yeah guys we ****ed up, we're super skint, it's gonna be bad for a while but we'll try and do better", do you think the likes of Hermansen, Enzo, Winks, Fatawu or Bilal would sign for us? There's always going to be a limit to what a business can and will say in public. Personally, I value deeds far more than words. I don't give a shit what Top, Whelan or Rudkin say in public because I just don't trust it all anyway. I want to see them make good decisions and have us progress, that's all I'm watching out for personally. Look at Cooper pre season. Won a bunch of you saps over because he did a fans Q&A and isn't he a lovely man, what a character, came to face the fans, great chap, etc. Loads of you were turned. Didn't stop him being a ****ing shit football manager did it? Less talk more doing. Don't need transparency in words, just need to see the deeds. Don't come and sweet talk me with your honesty, just stop signing shit like BDCR and Jordan ****ing Ayew who tank the value of the squad with no sellability.

It would be a little bit surprising if, having successfully defended us, he's then out telling Maguire we're absolutely ****ed

Genuinely a bit out of the loop, did anything actually change in the laws post-Watford that'd stop us "buying" him for £5m from OHL only to then "sell" him to Monaco or WHU for the 20 or whatever? Even if he doesn't want to come here, can't we profit? How is it any different from Newcastle being able to sell to Saudi clubs?

Maguire is very good when looking backwards. When the financials become public record, he's good at picking through them and explaining to the layman what they - and the relevant laws - mean. He's less good at the mystic Meg act he's been attempting at the last few years since he became famous. No club is out there showing him their books before they've had to submit them. He might know some accountants who might gossip a bit but it's something it's impossible to be "in the know" about. And what gossip he does get, he's said that people inside LCFC are very confident. What "sources" could he possibly have outside the club that know what we've spent?

All laws have an element of interpretation, right? Millions of lawyers around the world are arguing countless cases at any given moment based on the fine details of wording. The more complex a set of laws, the more complex interpreting them becomes and the greater room for disagreement. The thing with PSR / FFP is it's not just a case of sums. If it was just purely what is our net spend, everything in vs everything out then - sure - you'd more or less have an objective figure to rule on. But it's not, there's an enormous list of things you include (salaries, agent fees, transfer costs, etc) and don't include (buildings and infrastructure, such as the training ground) and when you start getting down to the fine details of what types of sponsorship you're allowed from who and when and for how much then you're really going down a rabbit hole. It's why it's a lawyer that got us out of the mess last time not just an accountant. It's far more about laws and their wording than just money.

Yeah but they're also 6 points behind a fantastic Liverpool side who have a game in hand and are absolutely motoring. They're not in a title race for the same reason Arsenal aren't, just nobody's catching Liverpool. It'll still be a fantastic achievement if they finish top 4 though and will help offset the financial difficulties they're due next year when they, like Leicester and Everton before them, have to deal with the fact they overspent massively to close a gap. Lot of pressure for them to hold on. If Man City put a run together and pip them to fourth as Liverpool did to us in the Rodgers era, the drop from Champions League money to Europa League money is massive.

Ah **** it. Let it be us. We're LCFC. We do ****ing headlines. They can't always be good. If you want boring go follow Cov, they never do anything of note. If you want interesting, you support Leicester ****ing City.

How? Mass boycotts will never, ever happen at this club. You'd be delusional to believe otherwise. That's pretty much the only way we could force an owner out.

Let's be honest the big six are bullet proof. Even Man City won't get anywhere near the thrashing people hope is coming for them. Man City will have a shit year, finish outside the Champions League places anyway and probably get a pointless points deduction to make them finish mid table. Then without the distraction of Europe they'll piss a domestic treble next year for lols

Don't think Maguire has significant inside sources, he just knows the rules better than the average layman and can explain them to fans and pundits alike for whom it's all jargon. He can make more educated guesses than the rest of us but they're still guesses.

... it can't be us? We’ve avoided the charge for 22/23 already, 23/24 we were in a different league and it's not possible to breach this year whilst it's ongoing? It has to be a club that were in the Prem last year. Don't get me wrong, the EFL can **** us if we go down and the Prem can **** us next year if we stay up and have breached. But the Prem can't do us this year, can they, not on the basis of what we've just submitted? That doesn't make any sense. If they do us this year it's because they've revisited the 22/23 issue through some sort of appeal but then why would that be happening now whilst they're busy with these recent submissions? Doesn't make any sense unless I'm missing something obvious?

One of my favourite genres of violence is "things footballers get away with that are straight red cards in rugby." Not only would that be a straight red with zero mitigation in rugby, he'd get a pretty substantial ban for how hilariously deliberate it was. Doesn't quite carry the same degree of risk in football, admittedly, because the equivelant rugby player would have been about two hundred stone heavier but it's still pretty awful and not a good look for the Premier League.

Yeah, what sort of morons buy players from Championship clubs? Imagine if we were stupid enough to go even lower in the football pyramid and sign players from like, League Two!? We should stick to what made us truly succesful and only go and buy expensive players from some of Europe's biggest clubs. That way we could REALLY guarantee their quality.

Tomayto, tomahto, the damage is done. Nobody is going to buy him now and they certainly can't loan him.

He can only play for Leicester City and/or Crystal Palace until 1/7/25. "Abroad" doesn't matter, it's a FIFA rule. Players can only be registered for two clubs in a season.

Bounanotte cost Brighton 5.

It's still a 33 year old we're obligated to pay millions to for two seasons. We're finally getting rid of all these hangers on we've had stuck on the payroll for years and we respond by hiring Ayew and BDCR because "ExPeRiEnCe." Stupid.

Everything except Bilal was an absolute cluster **** about this summer. The absolute opposite of the summer before. Illustrates how over reliant we are on the manager to dictate transfer philosophy. We're desperate for a sporting director. At this point I don't even care if Rudkin stays. We can just move him upwards or sideways or whatever else they want to do. Just employ someone to do what a DOF does at every other ****ing club.

Depends how it's structured. If we paid a lump sum, no, if we're paying in installments every month he's here then maybe? Either way, there isn't really much incentive on them to recall him unless they want to register him which they won't. You'd recall a young player that you wanted to gain match experience if he wasn't getting enough game time. You don't recall a guy you were desperate to get off your wage bill. What is of significance, however, is that the rules state we cannot register more than two loans. This does mean, unless I'm mistaken, we could deregister Edouard without sending him back and loan another player to register in the squad. That would be more expense piling up though and if we have to sell to buy already then I can't imagine the board approving that.

I don't see an incentive for Mourinho to go to Everton when he can keep moving around the "massive" clubs in increasingly lower tier leagues until he retires. He can keep up his general air of superiority doing what he's currently doing and doesn't ever have to "stoop" to the likes of Everton.