Dahnsouff

Not sure this is the wrong outlook, as we would be par of a peacekeeping source. So it would be Russia (re) engaging in a war.

Wasn’t the US supposed to protect Ukraine as part of the deal that saw Ukraine give up its Nuclear weapons (The Belgrade agreement)?

What weight does Putin have? 3 years suggests not a massive amount. There is of course a risk of escalation, but if Europe enters Ukraine as peace keepers, the only complaint can be the point @leicsmac raised about perceived ownership from Russia.

I shall call one of you Neville and the other Chamberlain.. (I jest) This episodic flexing of power needs to be called out at some point, and I don`t necessarily mean boots on the ground, but it also should not stand without some allied response.

Question is, if Europe makes a stand and send troops to Ukraine - what happens? Nuclear exchanges? Putin gets assistance from the US?

Doesn’t it also have open territorial disputes with both Tibet and India ?

Suppose the rallying cry for Sundays Europe bash has been given….

So rather everyone else is just busy losing?

Although to be honest, it does feel like Trump thinks or at least acts like he is just pumping the ratings on the this most irreverent of Truman shows.

Russia is a plutocracy like us and the US but with a larger dose of kleptocracy for good measure.

I am not so sure it’s that cut and dried once the US moves closer to Russia.

So with US retreating into deeper isolationism (To focus on 24x7 reruns of The Apprentice along with the daily pledge) we assume that Europe will need to be become more unified to fill this void. But is Europe the only entity that can provide the security guarantees? (As it will likely take many months for those to have teeth) Isn’t this a golden opportunity for China to flex its muscles?

Stephen Fry

The Art of the Deal ....and it's live!!

Absolute sh*t show, but won’t panic until the US MSM goes dark.

Agree, little point in a change and wasting more money, as this squad has no scope to demonstrate a sufficient level of siege mentality required to save us at this late in the season.

Why on Earth would you think that? Goal difference may matter at the top.

Not sure how this fella will help with set pieces

All this is horse trading, even more so with Trump at the table, so as long as it is transactionally acceptable (And allows relevant face saving) then I can see it happening

Going Through the Motions FC

JJ’s poor clearance too

USA. Sorry travelling.

Ornstein sticking the boot in. Go on lad.

I know what you mean and largely agree, but I am not sure repeating your lies in answer to a question isn't pretty much the same thing!

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