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What difference does that make? You think we shouldn't take any? Most will have to pass through other countries. What about those trafficked here? What about those with family connections that want to be here?, what about those who have english as a second language and hope that will help them settle?

So people never get ill at different times? Why do you think they are claiming persecution from those countries?

Where are we housing illegal immigrants in hotels? So what exactly do you class as benefits? Allow people to die because they're ill and claiming asylum from persecution? For what ends?

Open safe routes that we closed down? Allow the french to process them like they offered?

Yeah legal..illegal...same difference.

Well it depends on what they say as the reason, here are some examples. I don't want all those illegal immigrants coming over here in boats. To which I respond that most are asylum seekers not illegal immigrants. We're a soft touch they all come here for benefits. To which I respond that we take far less than many other suropean countries, and the asylum seekers can get more 'benefits' in other countries. We put them up in 5 star hotels. To which I respond as soon as hotels are used to house asylum seekers they stop being a 5 star hotel. I would say they are the ones I here the most. I usually end up not pushing it and trying to change the subject.

Maybe because they come from clubs where fans support the team no matter what, and what happens on the pitch doesnt necessarily affect the atmopshere, they find it odd when they have quiet stadiums.

Part of me hopes they won't go up, I always expect the club to clampdown on any group if they did.

Not met one reform voter yet that hasn't mentioned the reason they voted was because of the boats. I offer up facts and evidence, they aren't interested.

Is that a No?

So here we are page 449. Does anyone actually think anything will every change in England or at Leicester?. Put me in the 'No' group.

Looked the best player in the tournament.

It's a bit like brexit, lot's of promises that some people realised are lies but plenty believe or at least want to believe. Just like the vast sways of the public that have been brainwashed into believing people coming over on boats effects there lives in a terrible way. Most people won't research and realise we closed safe routes increasing illegal crossings (which doesnt make those crossing illegal BTW), They also don't know there were cuts creating huge backlogs and meaning they have put a some asylum seekers into hotels. They also believe they are 'all' coming here, despite pretty much every other country taking more than we do, they also believe they are coming here for benefits despite asylum seekers receiving more in other countries. But the bottom line all the information is out there if you care to look, most don't but do WANT to believe it, which makes you wonder if when it all comes down to it they just dont like foreigners.

Imagine this...LOL. As much as I admire the ultra style, this...would be too much. Facebook

Not sure how obliging they are given a new ground has been in the works for 40 years. They sourced the funds by private investors, they actually bought some land to build the new stadium a decade a go and will be selling that to help fund the new one.

I agree to an extent, i wish they would just avoid interviews. But I do feel ronnies stems from his mental health issues, I genuinely believe he's only happy if he think he's played faultless snooker, winning seems secondary to perfecting the sport. Brecel obviously cares enough to turn up to every tournament, but he is quite unique, happy to jet off rather than be around the sport everyday.

Well thats the english reserve in you, in us all, we don't like the attention.

I never said they didn't, I'm just stating all the investment has been into the training complex, just like us. We were once very vocal about expanding the stadium. I hope they are more successful.

I'm aware, and the old training complex stopped expansion, but the facts are the same.

Ipswich, moving forward. Press announcement today "Ipswich Borough Council’s planning committee unanimously backed the aquatics centre development proposed for the car park behind the Cobbold Stand earlier today. The scheme, which was initially announced in July 2022 having been drawn up in collaboration with Suffolk County Council and Ipswich Town, will see a new aquatics centre, hotel and park areas built on the car park the opposite side of Portman Road from the football ground. In addition, a seven-storey car park would also be constructed in order to replace the spaces lost due to the new development. Portman Road will re-routed into a curve as part of the aquatics centre project ahead of the Blues’ long-term plans for a stand development. The next step for the project is the technical design phase, during which the detailed architectural and engineering designs will BE produced. That phase, which could take up to 12 months, will see a detailed design programme produced and a timeline for the construction phase agreed."

Bournemouth are a bit like us. Owners have invested heavily in the training complex but little to nothing on the stadium. I wonder if Bournemouth will share the same fate as us.

6 years and they still haven't finished that stand.

Even if we had those things our atmosphere would pale in comparison. Lower leagues can still pull large crowds that have decent priced tickets but have dead atmospheres. There are so many reasons why English grounds are so quiet. The fact we ripped up the terraces, lost a generation of fans post 92, OTT stewarding, ground regulations. Etc etc... we all know them. But we are as said before quite a boring populace, we are also very reserved compared to our european cousins, and amongst all the reasons already stated a big difference that doesn't get mentioned is the fact we are very individual in our support. Most games abroad have large numbers of fans getting together before the game and marching as one to the ground. English fans want to turn up have a beer with their mate(s) and then go home immediately afterwards, thats not the culture abroad. To change the atmosphere within English stadiums you need many changes, one change won't do it. But it will never ever happen. The best we can hope for is grounds moving fans and giving an 'end' to like minded fans, this will improve things but only slightly and in some cases not at all. But none of the other changes that need to be made will happen so that's all we have.

I think if any match encapsulated the difference in football culture between England and everywhere else it was that one.

That would mean more than 50,000 given villa's plans, and over 60,000 if it wanted to surpass birminghams plans. So that would mean revised plans because it was around 40,000 originally. Be amazed if they went ahead they would want 50,000+