honeybradger

Im sorry but this opinion would be acceptable if we still had Maddison and Tielemans starting for us but not now. Skipp had 10 PL starts for us last season and was more and more terrible in each successive one yet he will still get plenty of minutes next season. Page has every right to look around and say 'that guy is getting consistent first team minutes and im better than that, why should I stay if im not valued properly?'. Academy players should not be held to higher standards than senior pros! If Skipp was 18 he would have been thrown back in the reserves and forgotten about until his contract ran down. Why is it that Page has to 'earn his place' when Skipp and Winks can put in the performances they did last season and still be lined up as the first choice midfield pair going into this one?

It's more like Scarlett Johanson finding you on drugs and homeless in the street. Then taking you under her wing, putting a roof over your head and having sex with you whilst travelling the world, making you experience things you'd never dreamed of. Then she has sex with your best mate. Like yeah it's sh*t but 13 years ago you wouldnt have dreamed of having a roof on your head let alone bang Scarlett Johanson. Her having sex with your best mate doesnt really put a dent in it. Have a watch of this and you'll forget Forest ever existed for the next 75 minutes.

I'm pretty sure every training clip i have seen with Skipp in this pre season has him looking out of his depth. He is miles off the rest of our squad which is filled with mediocre players. Winks i dont like but will probably start. Daka i dont mind starting but would like to see Evans getting regular minutes up top as well.

Our squad gets promotion as it is without any additions to be honest. I would be happy with going a summer without bringing anyone in and hopefully offloading a few.

Im not going to get excited. I just know that if I do the starting team of the season is going to be some arrangment of Faes, Coady, Vestergaard, kristiansen, Winks, Skipp, Soumare Cordova Reid, Ndidi, ayew, Daka. Not sure that my ideal manager that would come in and ruthlessly bin off this dogmuck even exists.

Surely your joking? Vardy's legacy with us is well and truly sealed, a couple seasons at Forest isn't going to change that.

Ricardo wouldnt have signed without Puel, he recalled Barnes from his loan. He definitely did have an input into the likes of Maddison and Tielemans as well, Soyuncu too. Considering how evidently clueless Rudkin is you simply cant downplay the contributions of the people underneath him, Macia shares the main responsibility for the good transfer business but Puel gets credit as well.

The praise for Puel is not about his tactics which were poor but his squad building. It is as clear as ever how important it is for a Leicester manager to steer the club in the right direction in respect to signings after the debacle of last summer signing Ayew, Reid, Skipp, Edouard and the demolition job that Rodgers did on the squad that he inherited. People just appreciate that side of Puel more the worse our squad devolves.

Having the ability to manage in this league means nothing, it's a poor league compared to our squad, Scott Parker just got Burnely promoted with 100 points ffs. All of Dyche, Wilder, O'Neil, Rohl, Van Nistelrooy and other manager that our fans would rightfully groan at like steve bruce or sam allardyce would get us promoted via the automatic spots, that's not what matters. What matters is whether the next manager leaves our squad better off than when they found it.

To be fair the likes of Monga and Page train with the 'senior pros' every week and are likely sat there thinking 'these guys are nothing special, how come they are guaranteed regular first team minutes whereas im of a similar level or better now as a young teen and im only promised a future pathway to minutes'.

I agree with all that mostly but the one thing I would say is thay we do have some momentum with our academy. Whether that will be enough I dont know.

Obviously, we are being linked to Wilder, Dyche and O Neil currently. He wouldnt come here though

Solskjaer finished top 4 multiple times and got to a European final (when Europa league had champions league teams dropping down). You can argue that was down to having Carrick and Mckenna as coaches but considering how far man united have fallen since he was sacked i would think he's got more to him than being a 'jobs for the boys' pick.

I assume El Khannous and Hermansen as they're the only ones worth anything to us.

If i remember correctly our U21s were on an undefeated run with Page in the side as well, then Golding came back and Page got demoted (as well as Monga and Evans getting first team minutes) and the u21s started struggling. It does make you worry about Golding as at 19 years of age and £5mil he very much does still look like a youth player whilst Page at 16 plays like a proper professional.

If Scott Parker got Burnley promoted then O Neil probably gets us promoted as well. Sadly if we do go up then he's nailed on sacked at Christmas

What a relief!

Make the choice leicester. On one hand you have the blue pill - you give Che Adams and Josh Brownhill fat retirement contracts but you lose Evans and Page, you may get promoted off the back of it but it's a small upturn at best before you slowly fall down the English pyramid. On the other hand you have the red pill - you back the youngsters, bin off the experienced old farts and give Louis Page and Jake Evans decent contracts that are a fraction of what you would give Brownhill and Adams and you stay in wonderland, I'll show you how high up the football pyramid you can go.

We have a very bloated squad full of senior players who arent good enough for the PL but are too good for the championship. If we need to rotate our best youth we can do it with senior players like Ayew, Daka, Mavididi, Cordova Reid, Mcateer or with other young lesser talents like Joseph, Wanya, Josh King etc. Im still a fan of Baybrooke and Cartwright for midfield who didn't even play the other day. I just cant see a reason why we need to add Brownhill and Adams onto an already bloated wage bill and squad.

I think we just have to agree to disagree which as you mentioned is rare. I just dont see a reason for us signing another 'he will do a job in the championship' player who is supposedly at their peak but is struggling to find a club that wants them. In my opinion we need to be running things the right way first and success will soon follow. It just seems like the club is constantly gambling on older players on high wages for short term success and it's consistently not paid off, Che Adams would be a continuation of that strategy, would you genuinely still want him on the books next season if we were promoted, or 3 years down the line? It's very much a mentality of 'if he scrapes us to promotion the wages and fees would pay for themselves' or 'if he keeps us up then the wages and fees would have been worth it'. Constantly scraping by with minimal long term planning will get us nowhere.

I would look around online to see what Southampton and Scottish fans think of him. It will likely change your opinion. In terms of Evans he's got good hold up play, good ball carrying, good passing, good finishing, he's got almost everything i would want from a striker coming in so I dont understand why our fans are overlooking him as an option. I think he's good enough as he is now. If he was a youngster at Man United or Chelsea and we were loaning him in sure our fans would be ecstatic.

I never claimed they were all nailed on England internationals but all 3 are on track currently. At the very least we shouldnt bring in Josh Brownhill and Che Adams to play ahead of them, it would be very short sighted and im not even sure the former 2 are even the better players currently despite the age gap.

Monga, Page and Evans. Monga was playing well at PL level at 15, only Nwaneri in his age group has done similar, I think it's a safe bet he will be in the England XI when he's older outside of injuries. Page is very highly rated in the England youth set up and impressed the other day. Evans was one of the best goalscorers at u21 level last year despite being 16, he's clearly advanced far beyond his age but doesnt get the hype he deserves on here, was very impressed by his hold up play the other day. Would much rather start with him up front next season than Che Adams at the very least.

I think it's some form of impostor syndrome. It's genuinely unfathomable to some that we have multiple youngsters who are good enough to become England first team regulars in the future that are also good enough to be starters in the championship at only 16 years of age. So they're desperately clutching to 'sensible transfer' 29 year olds who have peaked at championship level to ground themselves back in 'little old leicester' territory. The self destruction at this club from ownership to fans is really bad.