J. James

Thats a 2-0 winning line up for me

Ahh, but l dont believe this stuff about "we couldn't afford the £4m" for precisely that reason, they are faint hearted and saw him as a risk (as if Cooper or anyone else isn't). I see Cooper as the fall guy here, for me it's him and the players on the "fighting the fire" side, and the owner and directors on the "fanning the flames" side

Good post. I think that there is a vast difference between this season and virtually every other one. The Premier leagues latest attempts to ensure that the greedy six win everything, our swift and alarming decline due to the mismanagement in multiple if not every department, the likelihood of a points deduction and the seeming lack of ambition from those who chose Maresca's successor are all factors in defining this season as pretty unique. Add to this our promotion and the single target of 17th or better and comparisons to other seasons and other managers begin to look impossible. I really dont like our style or the quality of the entertainment atm, but if the ship is sinking, I'm getting on the lifeboat that made it out here but has the 2nd mate at the helm, not waiting for the one which may or may not have the star captain behind the wheel! IOW, he's done ok up to now, so I'll give him time, which is l believe the right thing to do. Ps. I feel l should start every post with "l WANTED CORBERAN!"

My choice too, and like you l blame our frankly useless directors and owner. But it's not Coopers fault and if he keeps us up it will be all the greater an achievement with the donkeys running the club.

Lol.. Maybe managers are like prime ministers/ presidents ... The present one makes the previous one look good! * This used to be fairly true before Bush and Trump over there and Johnson and Truss over here.

Bravo, l truly admire your honesty here, we finish 6th? 4th? Go on to win a European trophy? Nope, l believe you that NOTHING would be enough, you and a large percentage of other "Cooper outs" who dont have your honesty. I never wanted him either but he's here now and l want him to succeed because l want my team to succeed.

So a loss would give us 28 points and you'd have zero confidence in Cooper. However a win would give us ( on the same basis) 42/43 points.. That would see us around 15th So l assume by your logic that in this case you would have confidence in Cooper? I think l can guess the answer.

So you'd be less worried if they hammered us last season then ? Yeah right.

Never stops once a person is in the c*nt book and Cooper has been there for some since he had the gall to accept the job. And if/when we are mathematically safe it will be "we could have finished higher with a different manager". People make themselves miserable with all the moaning, but Cooper? He no doubt pays zero attention to noises off and smiles when he looks at his bank balance!

Lol.. Dont get me started on politicians! My comments on those lying, self serving, hypocritical, con artists would make the most extreme views on Cooper look like heartfelt support!

Yep, we never stop learning and l guess Cooper is the same, Pearson had the wisdom to change his thinking, Ranieri had the wisdom to keep a winning team and not change too much. Others do things differently and most take a while to cotton on, Cooper perhaps falls into both of these. But we are not in the bottom 3 and we've won so personally l find the vitriol thrown at him harsh. I get why people want him to fail and find reasons to criticise the man, but his failing means our demise, so atm I'm very happy for him to succeed, and if he succeeds with no Ricky or Fatawu then so be it - and lets remember what success looks like, it's not being in the zone at 6pm on the 25th May '25. That's it and all about it. BTW. I do believe he will start to play both of these guys, and Vesty too - if only due to injury/fatigue and how often does a necessity turn into a virtue in football.

No, sorry, it's not debatable, as l said in the post , you dont reach the heights he has being a fool. You and l may not agree with his team selections but thats our opinion. Every manager has a different style and players they like or not to fit that style (Maresca did and does this too, look at Chilwell and others). I dont like my 2 favourite players being frozen out any more than the next bloke but he has to be allowed to do it his way, painful as it might be.

I agree, great team on paper... But (you knew it was coming).. Whatever else Cooper is or is not, he is not a fool, nobody gets to where he is if they are, so logically he is picking HIS best TEAM to achieve his given remit, i.e. survival. It's incredibly hard to have faith in someone when we think we know better but in reality we dont have all the facts and frankly it's so easy when our job/career isn't on the line. Personally l never wanted him here, I hoped for Corberon, but the owners in their boundless wisdom chose him and i simply think that atm he is doing what was asked of him and deserves a bit more time ( and... 😬... Faith).

Not since Carsley demonstrated what putting his best eleven into a "team" achieves it won't no!

Ok, so, "l dont like his not playing Ndidi as a DM" -that's opinion and valid. "l have a bad feeling about this one, we are definately losing this 5-0" That's plain defeatism and negativity with zero regard to evidence or fact. Before every game, some fool "has a bad feeling" and they often attribute this to "the clown in charge", l guarantee if we had Pep or Klopp picking the team somebody would have "a bad feeling about this one"... Sorry, this is defeatism and needs to be called by its name.

Aaaand the winner of the most negative and defeatist post goes to... ... 50% of the posters on here! FFS what is wrong with people! Lots of dummy spitting cos the man they want to fail won't pick their favourite eleven players - the Carsley plan! Ignoring inconvenience facts such as we are not in the relegation zone and that we alone of the 3 promoted clubs have a win. Get a grip, gripers.

Good post, this is baffling sure, but how often have we seen teams selected as eleven great individuals but not a TEAM - (I'm looking at you England national team). If Cooper has a style and a plan 🙏.. Then maybe he doesn't see Ricky in that team as a whole. Or maybe 1000 other reasons but because he doesn't think he is a good player surely isn't one of them. Love your sense of humour btw, "bizarre mass-hand-sacrifice ritual" made me lightly chuckle

It's been my view for a while that to make it as a pro footballer at any level, you need to be brilliant, say 90%. top prem players on this scale 97% Regular prem players 93% Managers are pretty much the same, IOW not much between any of them, its the small % that makes the difference but what makes a massive difference is - surprise surprise - money for talented players and good recruitment. Both of which seem to be a little lacking atm. Swapping managers is a massive risk and should only be undertaken in extremis, and that is patently not right now !

Lol.. This is the obligatory "new manager out thread". "Corberan appointed" and 10 minutes into the first pre season friendly we get a race by a new bunch of hyper intolerant posters to be the first to post a "Corberan OUT" thread! I begin to understand why managers are paid so much! l can understand this thread being called "Cooper OUT" because the "l never wanted him and I'm annoyed that l didn't get my choice so I'm going to pick out every negative l can and make up lots more and ignore any positives besides which he's ex Forest and ugly so - Cooper OUT" thread is not as snappy. It's so much easier to dislike than like and to find or manufacture reasons to do so. easier for a group to pick out perceived faults and agree that the target is not up to the job. And oh so much easier when that person is hated right from the get go. It works this way, poster A hates SC for not playing "Jones" as a DM, poster B agrees because although he thinks "Smith" is better as DM, but he "knows" SC is useless because we got worse in the second half of one game, poster C can remember others where we got better but anyway if he'd put " Williams" on that wouldn't have happened... And so it goes on, fairness and objectivity is derided and not wanted. But if any individual posters ideas were adopted in total by a manager, then there would be hundreds of other posters calling for their head too! This is why the bar for sacking a manager is high and should be, the new man will also need to have all the answers (impossible) or a new group of haters will quickly set up a "(insert name here) OUT" thread. But of course the new man WILL be better than the last won't he? Optimists/desperate people will say yes, but evidence in our case suggests otherwise. IF Cooper goes soon ( very unlikely) then the chances are we will not get that brilliant tactician, picks the team everyone wants (impossible) fantasy manager but a Lampard or Gerrard instead. Will all the people calling for Cooper to go now post as many comments supporting them as they take us down? I think not.

To paraphrase, "there are lies, damn lies and data" Thank goodness data predicts nothing in a chaotic system (yet) or else why bother watching if the results are already known?

Spot on, spontaneity is it seems a thing of the past and we are all the poorer for that. I remember simply turning up at Filbert st with a few mates and paying to watch the game having decided maybe an hour before to go! We were young and very loud!

Lol.. I love this place, it's a psychologists dream, an ongoing experiment in human conditions.. This attitude is another example of confirmation bias, only choosing to remember or attribute bad things to the object of hatred. Good things were despite Cooper, bad things entirely down to him. Well done on pointing this out.

I agree, but why is this do you think? Is it the style of football atm, VAR? A realisation that a trophy is now a pipe dream unless you are a greedy six supporter? Could it be that now fans are more and more concerning themselves - i.e. worried - about the financial aspect of the game and how it affects their club such as being forced into selling their best home grown talent? I guess all of these bring a disconnect but l dont know.

Yep, and all pointless in every sense!