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Ward would have been horribly nutmegged in that 1:1

Dropping ward and deploying a smoke screen to mask the goal. Tactical masterstroke.

Maguire technically gifted but its a no brainier for me. Huth won the prem. Elliot and Walsh are club legends. Maguire trails behind these greats every time.

Think Ruud was a terrible choice but broadly agree. Other than try 3atb or bring in buonanotte. He's dropped Ward who we won't see again and hopefully winks back can bring some sort of control even if its for fleeting noments. Which Soumare will we see who knows it's a roll the dice. No side show bob. No ward can't argue with that. Man for man we're outclassed all over the pitch. Need a Christmas miracle.

I don't think we are beyond staying up but RVN was a poor choice. These players can put a shift in and we've seen that recently with the solid win.

Benching Buonanotte is unforgivable unless their is a genuine reason. Injury, recall etc. At least he has dropped ward. Okoli should be in alongside vesty or cody unkess we're playing a low block all night in which case why not a back 3.

Enzo was also an assistant manager with a team that had just won a treble under possibly the best manager in world football.

All very valid points, why pick Ward again though after a drumming the week before and his previous record with us. Red flag that one. Appreciate your thoughts on not wanting to change the defensive shape but think he kind of did that with the team selection in a way.

"the back line had one of their best games." Sorry but that was truly shocking defensive performance. Pure incompetence at this level. Idf he thinks that was a good performance minus the mistakes he's utterly deluded.

There was never a shred of evidence he was a good appointment. PSV finished runners up and improved when he left although arguably they sold playershe didn't want to let go. He fell out with the board and coaching staff. 4 games as caretaker at Man U with a star studded squad playing us...... I thought it was a dreadful choice but was accused of being a 'flask taker'. We should have gone for Moyes or Potter. RVN fraud.

The players were always going to put a shift in first couple of games under a new manager. Restricted with the injuries bit no idea why people think he will succeed other than having been a brilliant player. He's bought one coach with him as he fell out with the staff at PSV which doesn't bode well. I think he was the wrong pick but lets see.

We never lost by four goals in the Premier league under cooper. Nearest was arsenal but we still scored twice. He had a shit squad too

If Cooper was in charge I don't think he would be getting as easy a ride. That was horrible.

0-2 Newcastle after a choudry red. Someone to then start the inevitable RVN out thread and several posts stating what a long season its going to be.

Kasper Fuchs Wes Huth Simpson Albrighton Drinkwater Kante Mahrez Shinji Vardy That should do it.

In the spirit of balance we drew a game at home after going 2-0 down. The bar is low.

Top bins.

Oh wow

Jesus side show bob to sure up a rotten defence and the dak anti attack Dreadful subs

Skipp and winks in when fit for ndidi and soumare and we might get somewhere.

Yeah suppose with okoli possibly not up to 90 and Faes needing a message its out of neccesity. Imagine either or with an okoli is the best balance.

Can't wait to watch soumare walking back whilst west ham break and some player who hasn't scored a professional goal before bags a hatrick whilst justin punches the ground and coady looks down hands on hips after a right side double blunder.

Ndidi and soumare together is the stuff of nightmares. Rather skipp in wibks absence. The CB pairing is too slow but no choice if okoli is injured. Macateer over Mads dont understand but need at least one impact I suppose. The squad is doggo.

Agree with all of this. PSV improved after he left. Man U he oversaw 4 games mostly against us with an eltie team. Actually think this is going to end in disaster and people are only thinking about his record as a player. Still will back him 100% now he is here.

Everyone seems excited but I think this is going to be an absolute disaster. A few faes howlers and soumare walking back and it will soon turn on here. A stint at PSV where he fell out with his staff and a victory over us in a cup game. No thanks. We needed a moyes or a potter.