Dan

He is not perfect by any means. He's probably an upper Championship / lower PL goalkeeper. You could get promoted with him and I don't think he was terrible last year either. Obviously a downgrade on Hermansen. Really surprised by the latters drop off. Has that injury ruined him?

Find the goals prevented numbers interesting which measures the quality of shots. Hull last night had 3.36 from their shots on target so Stolarczyk actually did well again despite a couple of shaky moments. He's not perfect but been probably in our top three players so far. With Ward in goal yesterday we probably lose 5-1 - no joke.

Yeah but getting the ball forward is archaic and old fashioned. We're above that sort of thing apparently.

That isn't worse

Yes

Not a single sign of this has happened. Not one. We stand to do neither.

Do it. We all know Martin's coming one day. At least if we appoint Martin we're a day closer to the day we sack Martin.

I am as well as ridiculous as it seems. It isn't even necessarily just disagreeing with his decisions - it's completely at odds with everything he said. It's like Enzo Maresca saying all he did when he came in and serving up Dycheball.

Absolutely baffled how incapable so many of our fans are of realising that it's possible that Cifuentes is shit (he is) and the board and ownership are shit (they are). I absolutely despise this board. They run the club how I would if I somehow inherited Nottingham Forest. But that doesn't mean Cifuentes is good enough - there is not a single positive you can cling onto now that the fluke unbeaten run and playoff position has gone. Not a single one. I'd love to see anyone attempt to name one.

If that points deduction is heavy then we're genuinely in the mix. We are that bad.

Honestly unbelievable.

Have to say I fully back this whole thing but the absence of this is poor - this should have been consistent and it seems to have fizzled out because.... what? We drew our way to being below Coventry and Stoke? It looks weaker if this isn't consistently maintained.

My opinion of Nelson goes down every game that he doesn't hand in a transfer request.

Takes the piss all summer and ends up with the armband by October. What an absolute shell of a club.

Think he, like Skipp is in real danger of non-league, possibly retirement by 30.

Was calling him a League One player generous? Four years. Get ****ed.

Absolute ****ing waste of space. Turkey is too good a league for him. Rated by stupid kids who haven't got a clue about football.

Called it pre-match - Hull have taken a few scalps, can score goals, don't seem to be poisoned by the same fear that a lot of the slop in this league are. We're absolutely dreadful. I think we'll finish in the bottom half.

Honestly think I'd be less pissed off than this if I supported Wednesday. At least their fans for the most part realise there's a problem.

By the way - any Cifuentes bashing from me is absolutely not an endorsement of those above him. But I've seen enough already to know that even if the circumstances were right, he wouldn't be. This is a genuinely hard job. It is crap. You've got a squad of shite being paid about 4x what they're worth and bosses who are totally inept in actually moving any of them on. But he doesn't have no options - he's the one going for the old guard and aiding the declining value of our increasingly few players of any potential value. He's the one who is coaching virtually no decent phases of play. He's got a crap hand and I don't think there are a load of managers waiting in the wings to make this whole thing click properly, but he is making a pigs ear of this. I genuinely don't know what the positives even are under him so far. Lack of squad churn, crap, ineffective football. Just nothing. I don't think Van Nistelrooy would be doing worse than this, and he was a ****ing joke. Cifuentes - not the answer. I've seen enough. No point persisting.

They're ultimately the symptoms. Players have absolutely no incentive to perform here - paid ridiculously above the odds wages with ridiculously lengthy contracts to boot, pally with the owner who just wants some 'famous' mates. This club got stupidly arrogant and no matter how many times they're humbled they never change. Most pigheaded club in football. I really think that they're arrogant enough to just think they can breeze back to where things were and that all of this decline is just part of the journey. They think they're too big to care about a players character. They think they're above that. This isn't even necessarily a toxic group of players. We said similar about the 2022/23 squad but a number of them have got their careers back on track after leaving the cesspit that is Aiyawatt's Leicester. There are absolutely no standards at the club. Winks having the captaincy after how he's behaved this year - absolute joke but we're all so used to the club being dragged through the mud that nobody even bits an eyelid at it anymore. Leicester City in 2025 represent basically everything bad with football nowadays. I've never felt this low about this club in my life.

I've seen enough. Out.

Absolute slop.

I go out of my way to find these posts every game. Keep them up.

I dont blame him with these teammates. Hes miles better than this lot.