Dan

The more I think about this the more I think it's another loss.

Gun to my head I would say no we won't go down, but I think a loss on Saturday, which the more I think about it the more I can see happening, then I'd think we actually can. We don't do anything well and we're going to be docked some of the few points we actually have. This lot have already shown zero stomach for the fight. They'll not gave a single shit when there's a few jeers at the end - it's normality to them. There is a culture of losing and failure at this club in 2025. Luckily only two spots to play for. Sheffield United have picked up a little and should be OK. Norwich look bizarrely dreadful. Southampton I can't really work out - they have deep problems themselves but at least they can at least point to having some more encouraging performances than us, despite their dreadful league position. Oxford, Portsmouth and Derby much of a muchness - all limited but stubborn teams as we have already found out. Swansea are a dark horse to go down I think. They look pretty rubbish - they even managed to let in 3 to us. Stranger things have happened.

He'll now be shifted to number 10 with Ramsey's absence and we make way for 'Bouba'. This only gets worse.

Yep - you got a pretty positive vibe about Maresca early days. He was flawed in many ways but there was far more to buy into than what I've seen under Cifuentes so far. I expected him to have a bit more about him but then was I being way too kind? His career while varied is pretty unremarkable.

This is Cifuentes' way back for me - I hear buzz words like rebuild and stability without any substance to them. If they become substantiated I can probably overlook some of what's taking place. As it is currently we get the worst of both worlds. If Aluko can't get in this team now, when on earth will he?

Right so therefore the manager is totally irrelevant and they might as well appoint one of us who would (probably) command a smaller wage than Cifuentes to save money, if I have this right.

Fair point about the striker really and the Ramsey chance posted is a quite good example of it. Far from convinced just a new striker fixes our attack though and also far from convinced we'll actually sign a good one. There are lesser resourced sides and poorer teams on paper that create more than us. Even worse is that this isn't exactly coming as a consequence of a solid defence either.

Wednesday have had it worse than us but they haven't fallen as far and nor do they pay wages (well at all!) as ridiculous as ours. We could fall even harder if not careful.

I'm not quite at the point where I think we'll go down but I'm far nearer than I thought I'd be. All Aiyawatt knows is decline - if anybody can get relegated against the odds it'll be us. If the deduction is harsh, we are right in it. 1 win in 8 and can't score goals. Blackburn has the potential to be a new low under this regime and you can see a loss.

If that isn't at all on the manager then there's no point having a manager.

Bamford would completely flop here as well. The strikers are bad he wouldn't flourish here, could nearly guarantee that.

Didn't watch the game myself but have watched highlights and looked at the stats - don't think we really created a great deal looking at that. What's quite alarming to me is that often even during our 'good' periods in games, the first halves v Wrexham & Portsmouth, yesterdays first 15 or so, is that we don't actually force a great deal going forward. We're still not racking up the chance creation but more just keeping the ball. We don't suffer many attacks but when we do they're often fatal. Worryingly Stolarczyk's shot stopping numbers are basically the best in the division.

But in all honesty the signing itself was pretty desperate. A loan on deadline day is never going to be that likely to be a hit. We've just mismanaged ourselves so badly that such a key position and weakness was given such half hearted treatment.

Our players aren't good but our attacking output is truly awful, relative to the possession we have I don't think you'll find a side so uncreative no matter how hard you look. Mavididi and Fatawu's attacking numbers have plateaued.

Can chalk them off the list. As crap as it is they're at least on the right track now. Leicester, Southampton and Blackburn the worst clubs to support in this league currently.

Think it's pretty obvious he'll flop. You can normally tell fairly early - the way you would have to say James & Ramsey look like being hits.

Getting genuinely a bit worried Cov might beat 106. They're so far clear of everyone else it's unreal.

All of this would be completely fair enough if he wasn't so willing to be front and centre when things hold some sort of illusion of looking good (ie winning a league their own incompetence put us into against huge odds). He very much wants to take the glory. Absolute egotist.

Been a very long time I have to say. Just become a doom-merchant and you'll win 95% of the time nowadays.

I don't think we'd be doing any worse and he was terrible. He at least showed some sort of signs of freezing out the piss takers - meanwhile Cifuentes has appeased them.

Yep - I'd caveat my wanting Cifuentes out here by saying if you offered me a locked in Cifuentes deal until 2030 but it gets rid of Aiyawatt/Rudkin I'd take it. They're pure poison.

Yeah bit he plays Monga. Box ticked. Nothing to see here. This sort of argument is getting increasingly annoying.

They have better players in a fair few positions and actually have consequence at their club for being rubbish - I would assume. ****ing Millwall are better than us. What the ****.

Should be an instant dismissal if true - not strong enough.

Kristiansen is less shit than Thomas.