Dan

Pragmatism works both ways. Someone like Martin is an idealist but if Dyche was to stick with playing a certain way that handicaps us then that absolutely can't be called pragmatism.

Was Leicester City manager. Is now managing Heracles Almelo.

Think I'm just about on the anti side. I think he's a better manager than a lot give him credit for but I think if you factor in the following: - Everton fans have accused him of reputation management similar to Brendan Rodgers - The possibility of it simply not working - Him being pally with Rudkin You've got the potential of another completely toxic 2022/23 like scenario where everyone's at loggerheads but the manager will be held to no account because he's Rudkin's mate. This lowers the floor of Dyche at Leicester and makes it a little too risky for me.

Unfair - I don't think we need to appoint a manager with a view to him being here for a decade. If Dyche was to be here until say October 2027, got us promoted 2025/26, scraped survival 2026/27, started slowly and was moved on early 2027/28 - I'd be perfectly OK with this. I think it's likely better than what's actually going to play out.

this seems so preposterous that I can't believe it. What on earth are they doing? Jesus Christ.

If what they're doing has put ourselves into a position where we don't have a pot to piss in then yes, I would expect us to change our approach. Obviously that won't happen here though where everything else is the problem and we're in the right.

I'm quite mixed. Think he's better than many treat him as but unsure if it's the correct direction to take.

Trying to.... nope can't do it. This is so far clear of what we've had. It's actually hilarious to think people lap up the crap we're served up.

Not enough time has passed for the Moyes Everton upturn to be called anything more than a new manager bounce. Even if it is more I don't think Moyes being better than Dyche is some massive revelation. Are we expecting to get a manager in as good as Moyes? We are in such a mess off the pitch. Our entire off field process is random so we really can get virtually anything. We're a good case study of randomness in football. Dyche is above average. I did find the whole Rodgers-esque reputation management thing quite interesting though from the Everton fan. I can see that becoming a thing down the line. I think this would get worked out here fairly quickly if it were true

Those weather related delays are going to be a real pain next year.

This is all completely obvious stuff but it makes me think that Rudkin is simply not in place at all for his own supposed acumen. It's got to be another reason.

That article does more to push us to thinking there's something in this PSR thing and not so much that Dyche is going to get the job. 1/2 favourite hardly tells you it's a done deal.

I think he'd probably be more pissed off with the absolute shitshow that's been served up personally but maybe you think less of him than you think.

They're a busted flush - that much is obvious.

his birthday is actually 1st July. Sensational.

Biggest concern about Dyche for me is our most dangerous players are our wingers and I don't think he'd be the one best suited to utilise this.

This is also true however - you'd not put it past us to make this a 2 year £30k a week job

I dislike our transfer policy (if one exists) as much as anyone but this is more prudent than what we did with Ward all those years ago. To me this is just this version of Jakupovic which was a basically harmless move. Pearson liked a signing like this. By all means absolutely don't sign any 38 year old outfielders.

The South Americans are having a fantastic group stage, still unbeaten despite playing Chelsea, PSG, Benfica, Dortmund. It probably falls on Boca v Bayern but at this rate who knows. I called this completely wrong - I thought the Europeans would expose a big gulf here despite the circumstances not really suiting them but it just hasn't happened.

I've not read the rest of this thread so I'm thinking somebody has probably already said this, but I am starting to think Puel is becoming overrated if anything now. His floor was not as low as the likes of Rodgers or Van Nistelrooy. Fair enough. But he wasn't good. Very limited, dour football which consistently failed to produce wins at home to 'lesser' sides - something I was warned of pre-appointment by somebody who followed French football. The recruitment while he was here was great, but even then there are a couple of issues for me. The first is we still managed to piss £25mil on Ghezzal & Ward in the summer of 2018. The other is that how much truly was that down to him? Ricardo I will give him credit for. I've no idea how much input he had on the likes of Maddison, Soyuncu, Evans. Given the way Rodgers tanked the club I'll always have a bit more respect for Puel given he on numerous occasions I think took a more difficult decision for the benefit of the club. He would at least try and do right for the club - something that should be an absolute least you expect but clearly this isn't really the case when you've seen some of his predecessors. I also think it's pretty telling that he's had one club since he was here - St Etienne where he was sacked before he took them down. Not a disaster of a manager but the revisionism around his time is getting a bit of 'a lie told a hundred times is still a lie'. Don't miss that era. It was far better than this, granted.

He can do no wrong in the eyes of plenty. He's been nothing short of a total disaster. If you managed to restore us from what we are now, to what we were when he inherited us, you'd arguably have done a better job than someone like Benham or Bloom. He's been about as inept as he could possibly have been. The longer he's here the worse it gets - I'm almost intrigued to see quite how far it actually falls.

Boca Benfica ending a draw is quite funny in terms of that group - it's just going to mean it's about whoever batters Auckland the hardest and doesn't have Bayern do the same to them.

USA in general is a bad host. It's just too big. I'm sure the 2026 World Cup covers a bigger distance than Euro 2020 that was played all over Europe (and bloody Baku).

Boca Benfica the game of the tournament so far. No surprise - the Argentines are always great value in tournaments. I do see how much it clearly means to teams like those and find it hard to completely shit on it.

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