Dan

Beyond corrupt that Partey thing. Even more hilarious that Arsenal couldn't win anything.

Wouldn't surprise me. Dyche has every right to turn his nose up at us. Even Rohl I think is a freak scenario where he's working for just about the only owner more of an idiot than our own. Why any manager worth his salt would want to work under this lot I've no idea. A track record of lying and screwing over the managers they appoint.

That's quite eerie - losing to Millwall and Plymouth back to back, exact matchdays we lost to both as well

Yeah but you're just entitled and moaning.

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if they'd clocked off a bit because of who we have on the first day. I think even we can't **** that up. In before Mick McCarthy.

They have zero redeeming feature. The fact loads of the fanbase have this affinity towards them is one of the most damaging things there is. At least if a new owner came in and was shit they'd probably be held accountable.

I'm probably more in the cult hero over legend camp but he's absolutely somebody who is a positive and definitely wouldn't start up against it for me. The biggest reason I'd be against is simply because it's a huge gamble. I don't think it's the right situation. He came across well in that interview. He's definitely someone I'm happy to see around the place.

The agent stuff would be very on brand - the lazy option.

He's a good egg. Hope he's kept on under the new manager.

This place has got much Carrick in the last hour

Rangers is a great shout, if he's willing to actually move. Could definitely see Martin liking him.

Didn't watch the game but I do wonder if it's almost worth us going full Sunderland and just aiming seemingly exclusively for younger players.

Wilder's record outside of Sheffield United worries me, would steer clear for that reason and his recruitment.

The same people who moan that the same clubs always win everything are the ones who are happy for us to wave a white flag. Our ground has a feel of being full of people like this as well, it's why it's so tame despite the piss being taken out of them basically weekly.

Even beyond us though, look at some of the dog shit that's ended up on TV. Swansea v Watford who on earth outside of their fanbases is that bothered?

Still think it'll end up being Carrick

Agree now. If this is the alternative.

It changed the year after we got promoted - we will do well to get ten 3pms this season. No exaggeration.

I've no idea on his track record and I'm not saying I necessarily do or don't believe him but I just know it's not always that clear cut. I think there are plenty of things that are set to go that never entirely materialise. What I do know for sure is we're the only club in the 92 without a manager despite being relegated around 10 weeks ago - it's unacceptable. But what else would you expect from people who failed before, and face no ramifications for failing.

Would say it reflects pretty well on Martin myself.

I had these thoughts when Shakespeare got the job but he was sadly a bit out of his depth. It's a bit soon. I'd be happy for him to stay on coaching though.

Still playing it. I've managed in quite a few countries on it so started doing this thing which is essentially pick a random team. Make a list of all the countries (in Europe for now) that I've not managed in. Spin the wheel to see where I get, then do the same with the club (although exclude the top division). This has taken me to Sweden, Croatia, Czech Republic, Austria and now Israel. Currently managing a team called Hapoel Acre. 5th year there and I'm looking good to win the league this season.

When I see other clubs fans having a go at us this is the point they always miss. It's to stop things spiralling before it gets worse. You only have to look at our direction of travel in the last 5 years. Hope you get sorted. Absolutely disgraceful what's happening to you.

I knew we were stuffed under this ownership the day Rudkin & Whelan themselves were the ones 'reviewing' 2022/23. Only one way you can go when that's being allowed to take place.

If it doesn't come off I can't really blame secretpro, these things do change. It's crazy how normalised everything moving at a glacial pace is here though. The only club in the 92 managerless.