Dan

We do have a very lower league club mindset. Wonder when we'll start the horrendous Leicester are massive everywhere we go.

****ing hell

Should be pinned at the top of the forum. I think people feeling empty about the club will be ultimately feeling it down to this. It's just a massive problem that there is an instinctive reaction to not criticise the owner because of who he is. I was far angrier two seasons ago because it was the first time it had really caught up with us. With this now this is just entirely what I expect from us now. A poor operation at virtually every level. The final roll of the dice for me and having any enthusiasm for Leicester games beyond a social with my mates is a change of ownership. I thought it just needed Rodgers to go. It didn't. I wondered if Maresca's style and being heavy favourites against teams we're substantially better resourced than every game was a part of it. It probably isn't. It will take a genuinely extraordinary manager I think to make me strongly invested again under this ownership, and what sign is there that we're getting it? The Cooper appointment in itself should tell you everything. It's a loveless relationship. His flaws at Forest were often overlooked because he was their Pearson. Their man who restored them to the top flight. What credit like that does he have here? The fact he did that at Forest of all clubs probably works as anti credit in the bank if such a thing exists. I'm not even particularly angry about it anymore. Just empty. I want to actually be capable of getting angry about it again. I don't think that can happen again under this ownership.

We put down enough money in the summer, with the squad we already had to pull quite clear. But it's just another completely bodged window. As scattergun as ever and just more proof of no clue at the club.

Was a few times against Forest where I thought he's just well off the pace at this level now. Was beaten to things he shouldn't have been. It's such a shame because without injuries you're looking at a really top player.

It's a matter of time I think. Our centre halves are atrocious. It feels like the obvious solution.

Yep. He's on 7 losses out of 7 against them. This is from the Ten Hag era onwards too.

This is what I was getting at after Ipswich. He's gone there and tried to imitate last season and done it ten games into the season. As if he's asking the players what to do and they're telling him. He's got no idea of his own and if he has then he's got no way of showing it. It's complete guesswork.

How we've been hammered twice at Old Trafford in 10 days by this United is just astounding. We must be the only club in this country still scared of that club.

14 goals conceded in our last 5 games. Games against 5th, 13th, 13th, 17th and 20th.

We're like a bloke who keeps going back to his cheating ex on Soumare. It doesn't matter how many times she does it she'll always get a pass because she brushes up well every few months. Please get rid and hope that another club have the same delusion some of our Twitter tacticos do.

I've felt like this since way before Cooper. Cooper's very much the symptom rather than the causation. I don't think it'll ever be quite the same for me until we're under a new direction.

Should be sacked tomorrow. Hold out virtually zero hope that he will be.

I'd argue we don't have this. I could accept that description of someone like Moyes or Potter. Not this bloke.

It really is just atrocious. But the people on here who hit you with the "we're not in the relegation zone" point without any context are closer to the clubs thinking than I am.

It'll be us or Wolves joining Southampton and Ipswich. Fair play to Ipswich on today though, I really thought we'd knocked the stuffing out of them last week so to respond with a result like that is impressive. Wolves we'll see if they can actually put any kind of run together. We're similar sides - just both lacking in identity or lots of quality. We're very bland. Biggest also-rans in the league in 2024.

Conceicao.

We offer nothing to this league under this ownership. A nothing side just existing.

Appalling result. It's sackable.

I would if I knew it would. Can't trust these divs though.

It's no wonder this shit gets served up really.

This gets nowhere near enough attention.

Worst United side of my lifetime. 9 goals in 10 league games. We turn up and it's 7 goals in 1.5 games. Utter shit.

Arsenal have become very dour. That result felt completely obvious.

Southampton got screwed far harder against us than Ipswich did.