Dan

Absolute disaster start for Hermansen. Not quite having him being written off yet though.

Good luck to him. Could never really accuse him of being a shirker like I can the majority. But he isn't very good and I think we've robbed Ipswich here.

This is what'll happen - he'll do 30% of what should be done but because it came late in the day it'll be viewed as a success. Seen it all before.

I was more talking about in England in general though really and should have specified. Foreign football is more volatile in general with this sort of thing - take Ukraine where it felt like whoever finished 3rd was defunct within 3 years. In England I struggle to think of things that are really comparable. Bury, Morecambe etc... are worse situations and I suppose to go to literally not existing is technically a bigger decline. But to go from such a position of strength to such a position of weakness, this quickly, all under the same owner is astounding. I remember nothing really quite like it. Entirely self-enforced, self-inflicted. It's crazy. The speed of the fall is why I don't think it's anywhere near over. I don't know what's going to change.

Leeds is the only one in this country it can be compared to IMO.

Right so got it, never sign a single player ever, never loan a single player ever. Get these bums out the club. Every single thing that is wrong can be traced to Aiyawatt & Rudkin.

True, that's one example, do we know of any others? We haven't finished falling yet, that's for sure.

Sell. They aren't a promotion rival (we aren't going up) and we might've just had a second bite here at getting a fee for him. He's never been much good. Maresca duped people. I can't accuse him of being a shirker like I can most of them but that alone isn't enough to not sell an overpriced player. Was absolutely preposterous we didn't make it happen in January so no doubt we get this wrong again.

I can't even do an XI. It is basically impossible to do one that's got players in it who should be allowed to wear our shirt now that El Khannouss has gone. Defence should be Aluko, Okoli, Nelson and Justin - at left back. Faes in midfield, simply isn't a centre half, he can't do any worse than the other midfielders. Page has to start. Monga has to start. It won't be though. No doubt we have to endure Soumare, Vestergaard, Winks etc.

Another week of zero activity, zero response to the shambles of last week. It's an utter utter disgrace. The same useless pricks will trot the same useless crap out as usual and we'll lose. It's a level of incompetence you can barely even believe can be allowed to take place. I really do think this owner could take us to League Two and he'd have the exact same structure in place.

Probably going to butcher the explanation here but I feel like tactics are almost a luxury you get after the absolute obvious fundamental basics and the problem is we don't have even those so basically no tactic can work with us.

Nah that's the number 14

I genuinely don't know how it's possible to get it wrong as often as he does. Like even based on pure instinct and lucky guess you surely occasionally get it right. He actually does need to be kept around - he could guide us to all sorts of success just by simply proposing the wrong thing at every turn. If we keep opposing it can you imagine how good things will get?

By the time he's gone he will have almost certainly presided over the biggest decline of a football club in my lifetime. People in our own ground still high five him as well. I'd want a statue of him outside the ground if I supported Cov.

Sorry, I missed off Barcelona as well.

Touched on this point elsewhere but I wonder if there's something in this like almost low performance culture at the club. Tielemans started really badly at Villa before getting back into form. Barnes wasn't dissimilar. Hermansen, Ndidi, Coady and Ward have all started badly this season. Feels beyond a coincidence.

completely forgot the Pearson stuff. So not only are they complete hypocrites they are consistently on the wrong side. Attention seeking bellends. Rob Tanner needs to open his eyes before going and speaking to Cliff again.

Stolarczyk, Justin, Okoli, Vestergaard, Thomas, Winks, Soumare, Fatawu, El Khannouss, Mavididi, Ayew

They're insufferable aren't they. I could live with this if they actually got behind the team themselves. Bunch of preaching clowns. Everything wrong with this fanbase currently.

They've got to sack him. He's truly awful.

Pretty crap opening weekend on the whole. You just knew Forest after not scoring all summer would go and do that.

I'd agree with this if it was September but with a year left on his deal it suits us to move him on. Fed up of players going for nothing.

Has he gone yet?

We look more like Luton than Sheffield United. Three crap performances against bad sides. This is a classic 'my expectations were low but holy shit'.

You would imagine so - after all Guy Branston who worked with him said he was one of the best in the business. Given this is our natural level you would imagine it's easy pickings for someone like Real Madrid.