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Married TV presenter. As much as he probably hasn't done anything technically illegal he's still cheating on his wife which is a shitty thing to do.

Whether or not the presenter did anything ilegal is one thing, you can be a sleazy scumbag within the law and if you're legally procuring teen porn on the side it's probably not the first and only time. The fact that he approached someone on a dating site then "threatened" them when they threatened to out him is also not nice behaviour but also probably not illegal, unless they were death threats.

I guess it depends if you believe the mother's intentions in all of this are to stop her son killing himself with a drug habit funded by selling nudes. If he's a crack addict then of course he's going to have no complaints about getting £35k for a few dick pics and he knows that now this has all come out his gravy train has left the station.

I feel like it would be easier to use your influence to seduce and sleep with people than pay them for nude pictures, unless said nudes were already for sale. Look at Schofield for example. I would hope that these platforms have strict age regulation. However the internet is not exactly renowned for its robust age checking and it is easy to get round age restrictions by hosting in countries with lax age regulations. It would not surprise me one bit if Onlyfans or a similar copycat site has nothing more than a tickbox stating you are over 18. I obviously agree on the legality of distribution of indecent images, it is merely speculation on how this happened and why the parents might not have wanted to go to the police or were advised against it. If you look at the Gylfi Sigurddson case recently whilst he did do something categorically illegal he was acquitted because he was deceived into it. Similarly had the teen in question provided nudes through a platform with age verification it could be seen as deception.

No confirmation they used onlyfans, I think a lot of people are jumping to that conclusion because how else do you buy nudes? Even if you're mega famous you don't just walk up to someone and pay them for nudes. I'm sure if it turns out they did use a platform like Onlyfans there will be a massive crackdown on regulating these sites.

The reason why people mention onlyfans is because if the teen signed up and lied about their age then the person buying the images can reasonably have assumed they were of legal age to sell them. Whose responsibility is it to ensure the legality? The market place selling them is responsible for ensuring the legality of the images they sell. If you bought a porn mag and it turned out one of the girls in it was 17 it doesn't make you a peado.

I guess it's whether a crime has been committed. If this teenager set up an only fans account and lied about their age (not saying they did, I just don't know how else a person goes about buying nudes) then the presenter has not technically done anything illegal.

I did wonder how this whole situation came about. Did this presenter meet a 17 year old and start offering money for nudes. Or was the teen selling nudes through something like Onlyfans maybe to fund a drug habit and the Presenter happened to be a fan.

Ah, I was thinking the age of consent is sixteen so legally ok, didn't realise it was 18 for 'nudes'. So are sixteen year olds allowed to have sex but must keep their clothes on? (Not being serious)

Obviously this BBC presenter stuff is pretty unsavoury, I'm just trying to work out if an actual crime has been committed. Certainly a stackable offence but has he done anything wrong legally?

Fabio Cappello?

The use of cluster bombs is is probably not the best idea if they want to reclaim and redevelop the land for Ukraine. I know that there were still casualties from cluster bombs used in Vietnam decades after the war finished. One issue was them landing in rice paddies and not detonating. It also didn't help that the yanks painted them bright colours so kids would pick them up. However if Russia has already been using cluster bombs and mines extensively what's the difference in a few more. Especially if used to clear mines.

Fair enough, that's a much more knowledgeable answer than mine. My broader point was that should their demands be met they might stop JSO but they would carry on with other climate activism. It may not be XR but they are most likely not going to think the job's done and start up or join a different cause.

Their stated aims are to hold the government to account. The government agreed to no new licenses as part of the Paris climate agreement and have subsequently gone back on those promises. They are not requesting anything more than what the government promised to do. Should the government actually do what they promised then I imagine JSO would probably fold back into wider climate change activism like XR.

Fair enough summary, a lot of people don't realise it's about a specific issue not just a general stop oil protest. Perhaps they should have called themselves No New Oil. Most people also associate them with XR and get the 2 sets of protests mixed up blaming JSO for blocking roads which was actually XR. Some of the early tactics, defacing portraits There is certainly a failure in branding and clearly getting the issue across, but ultimately I am not against their current tactics of targeting sporting events, causing enough disruption to make their point but not enough to completely ruin the event.

I think the safest thing is to not assume anything, treat everyone with respect and listen to how they want to be treated.

This is a really lovely thread. The internet can be a horrible place but it can also be a beautiful thing. Yes I am drunk 😘

You see I don't think you do. So prove me wrong, what is the reason behind these protests?

Do you really think Top was overseeing the contract negotiations with JD Sport? It's a minor infringement and we've been fined for it. It is not even remotely the same as Everton's very questionable FFP adherence.

I gave up getting annoyed by this when I started working from home, but it used to piss me off no end when I was in the office and I just wanted the light relief of a few funny images and someone puts a video up which needs sound. Moaned about it a few times on here for sure.

Fair point.

I don't get the negativity for the article. Being pleased that Leicester have reverted to King Power and have not gone for a betting sponsor is ok. Especially in the light of other clubs securing new and most likely lucrative betting shirt sponsors, this frames the article from a Leicester perspective and gives it relevance. Whether or not having a betting firm sponsor the club was ever under consideration I don't know, but seeing as over half the premier league are sponsored by some form of gambling it is not a great leap to think we could have replaced out sponsor with a betting company. What the article doesn't mention and probably should is do we still have an official betting partner? Still having an official betting partner on the shirt makes us no better, or worse, than everyone else.

True, but that's also true of all budgets. When you see very little money coming in to tackle societal problems and plenty of money coming in to recruit and arm people who are supposed protect you, yet they do the opposite, well you can see their point.

The defund the police is not specific to the US and does still apply here. It is not about just cutting police budgets for the sake of it, but diverting funds from policing problem areas into community support, social services, youth services etc. Schemes that go the tackling the root cause of violence and not just throwing money at more policing to crack some heads together. I think this also applies to some of the poorer areas of the UK, but we don't have the same ghettoisation as the US so whilst not directly comparable it is a sentiment that still applies.

Yep it was probably also a factor in it. I think going back to the original point about this incident not sparking protests in the UK. I would say that, thankfully, that is the norm. We cannot be protesting after every incident in every other country. In the same way I wouldn't expect protests and vigils following the death of Sarah Everard in France or USA or Ireland. George Floyd/BLM was the exception and not the norm.