Rainbow Laces

[GaelicFox]

1 hour ago, the fox said:

And the thing that bothers me is that we talked with respect and logic. What a sad sad thing to happen 

And then the cowboys come ....spot the friends , now spot their roles.....

[GaelicFox]

55 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

LOVE IT  

[GaelicFox]

12 minutes ago, StanSP said:

why is it when you say something it's said 'with respect and logic' but when someone else of a differing opinion says something it's seen by you as narrow minded?

He hasn't abused anyone ....he has put his point across with respect 

 

wondered when you would wade in 

 

 

[GaelicFox]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

Yeah, you two are right and everyone else on here is wrong. 

 

 

I never said anyone was wrong , just their opinion might differ 

 

your the one abusing people 

 

alice in wonderland .....the irony is catastrophic  

 

 

[StanSP]

13 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

He hasn't abused anyone ....he has put his point across with respect 

 

wondered when you would wade in 

 

 

Thanks, nice to know you're thinking of me  

[Mark_w]

What a depressing thread. It's not that long ago that the Premier League and Football Association were doing nothing at all to acknowledge or challenge homophobia, so say what you like about how effective you think this campaign is, it is at least making some attempt to spread awareness. Is it enough? Of course not, but it's a lot more positive than most of what we've seen over the last 20/30years.
 

15 hours ago, the fox said:

I am not suggesting homophobia is less important. I am outright saying it. And if you think homophobia is as important as. For example. World hunger or racism issues. There is something wrong with you

By the way, humans make mistakes

 

14 hours ago, the fox said:

First of all. How many gay people are killed because of their sexuality. Let me tell you something. As a person who  is living in a "so-called" anti-gay country. I have never seen or heard about a gay guy being  killed. Like never. They leave them be. They just laught it off. The only group that is killing gays ( as far as I know )is ISIS. But ISIS are psychos. The kill every one and any one. Even their  flesh and blood. And second of all. You can't hide your race. If you look like mahrez or amartey. You can't just act like it is nothing. But for gays. No one can tell (except for the loud gays. You know who am talking about). That fact that you put people who are racially abused in the same brackets as the people who are mocked for being gay is a crime

Do you think that world hunger, racism and homophobia are competing concerns? This arbitrary ranking system seems to suggest so. Challenging one doesn't mean you're negating the others, football is incredibly popular and its authorities should be using their position to challenge all forms of intolerance and injustice.

As for it 'just being ISIS' who kill people because of their sexual orientation, that's evidence of a pretty basic lack of awareness. I'd start with looking at the states where it's punishable by death, then you can move on to the vast number of states where it's not legal for two consenting members of the same sex to have intercourse before you relegate it to a non issue.

[the fox]

3 hours ago, AKCJ said:

But you're against a charity that wants to create an environment where gay people are comfortable with their sexuality and won't be bullied, tortured or even killed for it. I.e. an environment where gay people are respected as human beings.

 

You act like the Premier League are only doing charitable acts to raise money and awareness for anti-homophobia and have dropped all of their other interests in other charities. Literally all they've done is give players rainbow laces and captain armbands and it's wound you up. You can only be homophobic if you think that is worth your anger.

 

 

Did I say that I am against that type of charity??. Stop making false accusation against me. I know what I said. You seem out of touch with the world. Maybe if you watch people fighting cancer. Or kids screaming to their mothers "mother, I am hungry. Where is my father. Why my childhood friend is blown to bits". Or a video of a little kid (12/14 years old) slaughtered like a cattle. For about a minute. Or people treated with disrespect and kicked like dogs after the left their loved ones under the dirt running away from war. Then and only then. you will understand why I think this homophobic campaigns are with little meaning compared to the things I talked about

[the fox]

3 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

LOVE IT  

At least we have some sense of humor 

[the fox]

47 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

What a depressing thread. It's not that long ago that the Premier League and Football Association were doing nothing at all to acknowledge or challenge homophobia, so say what you like about how effective you think this campaign is, it is at least making some attempt to spread awareness. Is it enough? Of course not, but it's a lot more positive than most of what we've seen over the last 20/30years.
 

 

Do you think that world hunger, racism and homophobia are competing concerns? This arbitrary ranking system seems to suggest so. Challenging one doesn't mean you're negating the others, football is incredible popular and its authorities should be using their position to challenge all forms of intolerance and injustice.

As for it 'just being ISIS' who kill people because of their sexual orientation, that's evidence of a pretty basic lack of awareness. I'd start with looking at the states where it's punishable by death, then you can move on to the vast number of states where it's not legal for two consenting members of the same sex to have intercourse before you relegate it to a non issue.

As I said (as far as I know). And when I say that. I don't take my informations from TV. But from personal experience. I live in a country that doesn't have the death penalty. Some of the things that you say are false, if you have sex, outside of marriage you will get arrested. It is not just gay people. Do you get your info from real life experience, because I do. And when I talk about things. I don't just talk nonsense.

[AKCJ]

2 minutes ago, the fox said:

As I said (as far as I know). And when I say that. I don't take my informations from TV. But from personal experience. I live in a country that doesn't have the death penalty. Some of the things that you say are false, if you have sex, outside of marriage you will get arrested. It is not just gay people. Do you get your info from real life experience, because I do. And when I talk about things. I don't just talk nonsense.

I hate to break it to you... but...

[the fox]

13 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I hate to break it to you... but...

OK. Can i ask you a questions. If you had  to chose between getting a cure for cancer or ending homophobia. What would you choose

[the fox]

14 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I hate to break it to you... but...

So. You have chosen to call me a homophobic and  mock me instead of having an adult conversation. different strokes for different folks I guess

[AKCJ]

15 minutes ago, the fox said:

Did I say that I am against that type of charity??. Stop making false accusation against me. I know what I said. You seem out of touch with the world. Maybe if you watch people fighting cancer. Or kids screaming to their mothers "mother, I am hungry. Where is my father. Why my childhood friend is blown to bits". Or a video of a little kid (12/14 years old) slaughtered like a cattle. For about a minute. Or people treated with disrespect and kicked like dogs after the left their loved ones under the dirt running away from war. Then and only then. you will understand why I think this homophobic campaigns are with little meaning compared to the things I talked about

Jesus.

 

I'm not even sure where to begin with this post so I'll just leave you to wallow in your little bubble of ignorance in peace. 

[AKCJ]

7 minutes ago, the fox said:

OK. Can i ask you a questions. If you had  to chose between getting a cure for cancer or ending homophobia. What would you choose

Are the two mutually exclusive then?  

[the fox]

3 hours ago, StanSP said:

why is it when you say something it's said 'with respect and logic' but when someone else of a differing opinion says something it's seen by you as narrow minded?

I didn't say others are narrow minded. The guy called me a homophobic because I said I am not a pro-gay. I said more then one time. If a person is minding his life. I don't have any problem with him, gay or not. And I said the world has more important things to attend to. Like wars. Racism and refugees. 

[the fox]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Are the two mutually exclusive then?  

I said if you could choose ONLY one. Which one will be your priority. Answer me please and stop beating around the bushes

[Mark_w]

23 minutes ago, the fox said:

As I said (as far as I know). And when I say that. I don't take my informations from TV. But from personal experience. I live in a country that doesn't have the death penalty. Some of the things that you say are false, if you have sex, outside of marriage you will get arrested. It is not just gay people. Do you get your info from real life experience, because I do. And when I talk about things. I don't just talk nonsense.

Just now, the fox said:

OK. Can i ask you a questions. If you had  to chose between getting a cure for cancer or ending homophobia. What would you chose

Just now, the fox said:

I said if you could choose ONLY one. Which one will be your priority. Answer me please and stop beating around the bushes

 

Wow.

Do you genuinely just want us to decide on the worst issue facing the human race and embrace everything else? Shall we stop trying to fight diabetes because it's less deadly than cancer? Shall we stop trying to challenge sexism because somebodies 'real life experience' suggests it's less of an issue than racism?

How are attempts to challenge homophobia weakening the effort to cure cancer?

[AKCJ]

5 minutes ago, the fox said:

I didn't say others are narrow minded. The guy called me a homophobic because I said I am not a pro-gay. I said more then one time. If a person is minding his life. I don't have any problem with him, gay or not. And I said the world has more important things to attend to. Like wars. Racism and refugees. 

If you're not "pro-gay" then surely you're anti-gay and therefore homophobic. 

 

2 minutes ago, the fox said:

I said if you could choose ONLY one. Which one will be your priority. Answer me please and stop beating around the bushes

But this isn't about only choosing one, is it?

 

Cancer is the worlds biggest killer and that's why so much money is invested in cancer research.

 

The Premier League's LGBT campaign is literally about a few pieces of coloured string and it's wound you right up  

[the fox]

10 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Jesus.

 

I'm not even sure where to begin with this post so I'll just leave you to wallow in your little bubble of ignorance in peace. 

In other words, I got you cornered. You know I got you good, so the only thing that you could do is generalise. Yeah, let me stay in my little bubble of ignorance. I will happily go with my life knowing that I have my priorities right

[Facecloth]

Just now, the fox said:

I said if you could choose ONLY one. Which one will be your priority. Answer me please and stop beating around the bushes

But we don't have to only pick one. So therefore there's nothing wrong with people fighting homophobia whilst worse things go on in the world. In real life we don't pick the worst thing that's happening and concentrate on that exclusively. If the premier league want to spend a weekend giving a message out on one campaign, doesn't mean they won't spend a weekend doing the same for another. 

[the fox]

3 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

 

Wow.

Do you genuinely just want us to decide on the worst issue facing the human race and embrace everything else? Shall we stop trying to fight diabetes because it's less deadly than cancer? Shall we stop trying to challenge sexism because somebodies 'real life experience' suggests it's less of an issue than racism?

How are attempts to challenge homophobia weakening the effort to cure cancer?

The only thing that we were talking about is priorities. Like I said. I would rather we focus on more important things, that's all

[the fox]

8 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

If you're not "pro-gay" then surely you're anti-gay and therefore homophobic. 

 

But this isn't about only choosing one, is it?

 

Cancer is the worlds biggest killer and that's why so much money is invested in cancer research.

 

The Premier League's LGBT campaign is literally about a few pieces of coloured string and it's wound you right up  

Like I said. I don't care if you are gay or not. I will treat you like any other person, thats called equality.

[AKCJ]

Just now, the fox said:

Like I said. I don't care if you are gay or not. I will treat you like any other person, thats called equality.

So why has this wound you up?

[Facecloth]

Just now, the fox said:

The only thing that we were talking about is priorities. Like I said. I would rather we focus on more important things, that's all

There's lots of important things going on in the world right now than the result of the Leicester match, the F1 title decider, or what happens in the final episode of the Missing. Hell there's more important things in my life right now, but them things will have still made up a large part of my week. Should I stop caring about those things, stop watching, because I have other things going on? Of course not. One weekend of asking people not to be ***** to people just because they happen to be gay isn't going to and won't stop people campaigning and caring about more important issues. 

[the fox]

5 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

But we don't have to only pick one. So therefore there's nothing wrong with people fighting homophobia whilst worse things go on in the world. In real life we don't pick the worst thing that's happening and concentrate on that exclusively. If the premier league want to spend a weekend giving a message out on one campaign, doesn't mean they won't spend a weekend doing the same for another. 

What I am trying to fined out is his priority, sure I want to solve every thing wrong with this world