The_77 Posted 6 December 2016 Posted 6 December 2016 Am rather surprised there's hardly any mention very recently of the excitement of progressing superbly in the CL. The loss at Sunderland again makes many think we have to prioritise the league than over a prestige European competition that may never happen again for a few seasons. Maybe Ranieri wants the team to continue pushing in the CL knowing a top-4 or 5 finish seems highly unlikely currently, and knows the shock of winning the title last season convinces him the team can actually (somehow) go on further to potentially win it and reclaim a CL spot. Uncertain on this, but don't the FA Cup winners have a place in qualifying position for the CL? If so, rather we'd try and win this than the CL even though the latter would be magnificent.FA Cup winner gets in the group stage of Europa League. FA Cup runners-up no longer can qualify if the FA Cup winner has qualified the the league or European competition.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 7 December 2016 Posted 7 December 2016 On 04/12/2016 at 17:59, Struwwelpeter60 said: We never were. Not even this summer. One title is not enough to increase the international standing of a club markedly. Ask the fans of HSC Montpellier and Vfl Wolfsburg. We WERE a decent draw. Not the draw of a top European club admittedly. You are however wrong to state that our exploits did not maximise our international standing to a point were we would be able to bring in players good enough to make at the very least a fist of this season, and to cement a top half (or better) finish. The last six months have been a massive missed opportunity to push the club forward beyond being a mid table team PL side, let alone anything better than that.
Kitchandro Posted 7 December 2016 Posted 7 December 2016 On 04/12/2016 at 17:20, Dan LCFC said: Tell you those who need to get a grip, those who think that people are moaning because we aren't challenging for the title. NO ONE EXPECTED US TO RETAIN IT. NO ONE. But do not sit there and pretend this is even close to good enough. A team that was good enough to win the title, with around £70mil spent on it, and only Hull & Swansea look poorer teams for me, and even one of those beat us. So much this. I've said it before, these performances wouldn't have been acceptable if we were a league one side playing Premiership teams. And the reason I can say that is because we know we're so much better than this. We are woefully underachieving (something we did under Pearson in the Premiership as well, I might add). And I'm going to keep saying it, there's a disgusting lack of effort which is not on. Having said that I do think it's embarrassing how people are panicking. It says a lot about the character of some of our fans that they'd be happy to sack the manager who brought us the greatest season in our history just a few months later only to replace him with a regressive, negative, recently disgraced loser like fat Sam. Pathetic people like that need to be treated with the disdain they deserve.
norwichfox Posted 7 December 2016 Posted 7 December 2016 A thread about being positive....this bloke is positively available to manage us.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38242297
Callabinho Posted 7 December 2016 Posted 7 December 2016 9 hours ago, Kitchandro said: So much this. I've said it before, these performances wouldn't have been acceptable if we were a league one side playing Premiership teams. And the reason I can say that is because we know we're so much better than this. We are woefully underachieving (something we did under Pearson in the Premiership as well, I might add). And I'm going to keep saying it, there's a disgusting lack of effort which is not on. Having said that I do think it's embarrassing how people are panicking. It says a lot about the character of some of our fans that they'd be happy to sack the manager who brought us the greatest season in our history just a few months later only to replace him with a regressive, negative, recently disgraced loser like fat Sam. Pathetic people like that need to be treated with the disdain they deserve. So you would be happy to see us go down as long as Ranieri was the manager just because he "won" the league with us? Because I tell you now if he remains for the season we're gone...this is the worst we've been since returning the the prem, the Sunderland game was ****ing appalling and no one can defend his awful team selection, no one person is bigger than our club, even if he has won the league, if we are in the bottom three come January (which we will be because we won't get anything from our next four league games) he's gone like I've said before I care more about my football club than I do the person managing it. Ranieri has proven all through his career that when momentum is good his happy clappy approach works, when things go sour it doesn't, he hasn't got a strong enough character to get us out of the mire. And if you seriously think we're not in trouble, then you need to wake up duck.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 7 December 2016 Posted 7 December 2016 9 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: We WERE a decent draw. Not the draw of a top European club admittedly. You are however wrong to state that our exploits did not maximise our international standing to a point were we would be able to bring in players good enough to make at the very least a fist of this season, and to cement a top half (or better) finish. The last six months have been a massive missed opportunity to push the club forward beyond being a mid table team PL side, let alone anything better than that. What does the fact, that we were unable to lure Deeney and Keane away from Watford/Burnley ( although we offered 45m for the two), tell you about the attractiveness of LCFC? The only way to establish the club in the top-six region of the table, would be the Abramovich way (yes, one can buy success). But obviously our owner is not willing to do that. 30m for a transfer and 100k per week seem to be two red-lines, that he is not inclined to cross. That, probably, was the reason, why we didn't trigger Silva's release clause (38.5m).
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 7 December 2016 Posted 7 December 2016 1 hour ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: What does the fact, that we were unable to lure Deeney and Keane away from Watford/Burnley ( although we offered 45m for the two), tell you about the attractiveness of LCFC? The only way to establish the club in the top-six region of the table, would be the Abramovich way (yes, one can buy success). But obviously our owner is not willing to do that. 30m for a transfer and 100k per week seem to be two red-lines, that he is not inclined to cross. That, probably, was the reason, why we didn't trigger Silva's release clause (38.5m). Both Deaney and Keane actually wanted to come to us, so that does not help your argument whatsoever - that we were not a 'draw'. The fact Vic has his financial limits is another issue which I think you are correct on.
urban.spaceman Posted 7 December 2016 Author Posted 7 December 2016 In my defence I opened this thread about 3 weeks ago.
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