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The Pepstein Files

what about the seasons after the affect period huh?????

KNEW tickebastard.com was in on it.

If they spent almost a billion quid cheating they can afford a fine at least three times that. And that's before you get to the payouts to clubs like ours.

35 of the charges are for non-cooperation between 2018 and 2023. The Premier League's attempt to dock us 20 points for one inadvertent breach included many for non cooperation.

Faes pictured with Oppenheimer seems wildly appropriate.

This best not be the compensation deal we’ve worked out with Man City’s owners.

He's been excellent on us IMO. From June 2025: Leicester victims of PSR quadruple jeopardy Leicester City would like to make a managerial change; that much seems obvious. Ruud van Nistelrooy won four league matches in his tenure, two of which came after relegation, against teams that, like Leicester, were already down. They cannot move, however, because of Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR). Leicester already fear a vindictive 12-point deduction in the Championship next season, and paying off Van Nistelrooy would make their financial predicament worse. Any player who may be considered an asset, such as goalkeeper Mads Hermansen, will have to be sold, weakening them further. Russell Martin, considered a managerial target, has now taken the job at Rangers, and there is a worry that two other candidates, Danny Röhl, of Sheffield Wednesday, and Sean Dyche, may be lost to them too. Leicester erred with Van Nistelrooy, and that’s what PSR does — it cements mistakes in place, with no second chances. So Leicester will be relegated, suffer a points deduction in the league below and conduct a fire sale of what little talent the club do possess, while being stuck with a manager who has shown little aptitude for the job. No one is arguing the club have not been run poorly, but PSR ensures they get no opportunity to change course. This isn’t double jeopardy, it’s quadruple jeopardy. It is almost as if the Premier League won’t rest until it kills a club, just to show it can.

Remember during the fall out of the Super League, pundits pivoted from demanding consequences for the clubs to saying 'you can't punish the fans'. I don't remember where that sentiment was when we got our points deduction.

Ya dirty fecker

We got relegated to League One because of an inadvertent £20m overspend under rules that didn't exist at the time and which only happened because the Premier League ****ed up. Chelsea illegally spent £50m on 10 players over 13 years in what only can be described as deliberate and sustained cheating, yet the Premier League didn't think they gained a sporting advantage so only fined them 20% of what they'd illegally spent. Beyond parody.

Me after having said this for the last six years:

I've been saying since the scale of the charges were revealed, it should be a rolling points deduction of 1000 points and expulsion to the National League to prevent them from rebuilding to their current strength. I've heard a few people on phone ins saying that they cheated for 9 years so should be punished for 9 years but that's not true. They didn't cheat for 9 years - that's just the seasons they were charged for breaking financial rules for - 2009 to 2018 - 35 of their charges were for non-cooperation in the investigation between 2018-2023, which takes it up to 14 years of cheating. And here we are, 3 years after that where we finally have a verdict after their lawyers slowed the process down to a snails pace. That's seventeen years of cheating. How long until any punishment is delivered? Are Man City's lawyers going to make it twenty years? And when are the Premier League going to investigate Man City for their conduct after 2018? The punishment should fit the crime. Expel them and make it impossible for their club to return to the big time for at least a generation. Anything less than that is shameful.

What about eighth?

Originally 10 points reduced to 6. In the wrong season which meant Everton stayed up at our expense, of course. This is what they were attempting to deduct from us:

Petition to have Man City's trophies replaced with just this one:

https://www.mancity.com/news/club/a-letter-from-the-chairman-to-manchester-city-fans-63926027 I have been part of this Club for 18 years. I have had the privilege to stand with you in the Etihad, at Wembley, and in Istanbul. This Club matters to me, and you have shown and told me – time and time again - how much Manchester City matters to you. This is why I am writing to you today. Following Friday’s media reporting, many of you will have spent your evening answering questions and responding to messages from friends, family and colleagues. So have I. Here’s what I said to my family: The Premier League process still has a long way to run, and our confidence and intent in proving the Club’s innocence is just as strong as when this began. There are so many things that I would like to be able to share with you to help you understand why we feel so confident in our position. But the strict confidentiality of the legal process and our determination to respect it means I cannot do that at the moment. Even this letter underwent several legal checks to make sure it complies. I ask you to please carefully read the statement below, which we gave on Friday, and the statement we issued in February 2023 (also below). Every word matters and holds true. While some people have been quick to reach their own conclusions, and there is so much noise swirling around us, nothing has changed. We have faced challenges together before and have prevailed. There remain many who want to undermine the momentum of our Club. We will not give them that opportunity. We have some exciting moments to look forward to after this international break. We travel to Anfield in a fortnight, and then host Paris St Germain in the Champions League back at Etihad Stadium - moments that give us an opportunity to celebrate the strength of the Manchester City family. Thank you, as always, for your constant support. Khaldoon Al Mubarak Chairman Manchester City Football Club Club Statement Friday 25th September 2026 The Premier League process remains ongoing, with significant elements to be completed, and subject to strict confidentiality. As such Manchester City FC’s position remains consistent with the Club’s statement of February 2023. The Club has diligently respected due process for eight years on the basis that the Premier League Board and Executive would behave as an independent, impartial and fair-minded regulator, free from partisan influence. Club Statement February 2023 Manchester City FC is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with. The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position. As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.

RIP x

Something I haven't seen discussed anywhere and to me seems a very important question.... When does the investigation into Man City's conduct after the 2009-2018 period begin? Cos there's no way they didn't stop cheating after 2018.

UEFA tried to bring the case earlier but Manchester City used the legal process to obfuscate the investigation to delay any charges for years. The exact same behaviour with the Premier League. Both authorities have failed to implement their rules and hold brazen cheats accountable for almost two decades now. Failures that have had catastrophic consequences for us.

Two of their biggest clubs have been cheating for a generation each. One they spent 5 full years investigating mostly in secret before bringing charges that would take another 3 and a half years to finally find them guilty of. And that’s just the 2009-2018 period - they haven’t even started investigating them for their post 2018 conduct. And the other they didn’t even find out about until a few years after their owner was forced out by his association with Putin and his war, when the new owners brought them proof of 13 years worth of cheating after having secured a £150m discount explicitly to pay for anticipated fines. They had illegally spent £50m on 10 players over the course of 13 years, who they sold for a £250m profit. With those 10 players Chelsea won 2 Premier Leagues, 2 FA Cups, 2 Champions Leagues, 2 UEFA Leagues and a Club World Cup, but they didn’t believe Chelsea gained a sporting advantage. An initial 15 points deduction was commuted to a financial penalty of about a 5th of what they spent illegally. Meanwhile their most infamous winner was pursued for four seasons with a psychotic vengeance with the claim they gained a sporting advantage in a season in which they were relegated (after the Premier League delayed Everton’s points deduction till after that season), colluding with the EFL and breaking their own rules at least 4 times before proving in their own words that Leicester hadn’t broken any at all. They then changed the rules retrospectively, finding that club guilty of breaking rules that didn’t exist at the time and issuing a 6 points deduction penalty that relegated them to League One. This farce cannot continue.

These charges prove the UEFA charges were correct. That European ban should clearly have stood. We should have had 2 seasons of Champions League football.

Not only would we have been better able to comply with PSR in 22/23, which is the season we were relegated by the Premier League's delayed pts deduction for Everton, we wouldn't even have been in the Championship in 23/24 for which we were retroactively charged under rules that didn't exist at the time and wouldn't have been relegated to League One. Literally NONE of the relegations we've suffered in the last 4 seasons would have happened.