Nigel Pearson on Brexit, leaving ostrich-gate behind and his new life managing in Belgium

[HighPeakFox]

I think that there are a lot of warped / narrow perceptions of what it is to be a patriot. I don't drape the Union Jack / Cross of St George, or deify the Queen for example, but it doesn't mean I love my country any the less. 

[Peterorange]

On 11/10/2017 at 18:24, murphy said:

From one corrupt, bloated, anti democratic, anti British, European institution to another.... Can we have a referendum about leaving FIFA next please?

 

 

 

"EU citizens directly elect the members of the European Parliament, which is a ‘co-legislator’ in most areas of EU activity. In other words, its approval is generally needed for new EU laws. These elections also then shape the choice of European Commission President, who needs to have the approval of the Parliament."

 

From fullfact.org. Not that facts are important any more.

[Simi]

On 10/11/2017 at 15:04, Koke said:

Sam Allardyce is also a remainer. Looks deceive, both Allardyce and Pearson have been characterised as being Brexit Little Englander types but they are not.

Allardyce voted leave.

 

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/929062649945575429

[CosbehFox]

On 10/11/2017 at 15:14, baker11 said:

Likewise, I know the lady who does his hair in Sheffield. She mentioned he was struggling for a while after Derby.

Been told similar his boozing can get out of control on occasions. In that sense he's very old school and cut from a cloth of a previous era. 

[Rogstanley]

Hardly a surprise that an intelligent, highly successul person whose work puts him in contact with people all over the world is going to be an open minded remainer, is it? He might have the little Englander image but the guy is a millionaire football manager not some bitter old man.

[FoyleFox]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Been told similar his boozing can get out of control on occasions. In that sense he's very old school and cut from a cloth of a previous era. 

That happened to most of Leicestershire when we won the league 

[murphy]

6 hours ago, Peterorange said:

 

"EU citizens directly elect the members of the European Parliament, which is a ‘co-legislator’ in most areas of EU activity. In other words, its approval is generally needed for new EU laws. These elections also then shape the choice of European Commission President, who needs to have the approval of the Parliament."

 

From fullfact.org. Not that facts are important any more.

Ha!  You think the EU is democratic?  Bless.

 

The parliament is elected so yes we got a 1/28th say in that, but the real power lies with the commission, all unelected and unaccountable.  These are the people that propose laws etc.  The parliament is a facade.  They just vote on what the commission puts forward.  The EU has been dragging us on a course, not of our choosing, for 25 years.  It has overreached itself from being a trading block (good idea) to being hijacked by a political and federalist ideology (bad idea).

 

Anyway, this is not even what I meant.  I said anti-democratic, not undemocratic.  Everyone knows it is undemocratic but it is anti-democratic because it seeks to suppress democracy.  It wants to punish us for having the temerity to exercise our democratic rights and to discourage others from leaving.  But what if there is a better way?  What if leaving was in everyone's interests?  It was established to serve member states but now it is all about self preservation, regardless of the cost to it's members.

 

Finally, remember the images of David Cameron going cap in hand to Polish and other Eastern Europe governments trying to negotiate whether he could change benefit payments to foreign nationals and getting dismissed?   That swung it for me.  How can it be democratic that out own government has to beg others and be refused to be allowed to do what it wants with UK taxpayers money?