Foxestalk Brexit Re-Referendum

[murphy]

6 minutes ago, Rogstanley said:

Speak for yourself on the first paragraph. EU law doesn't bother me in the slightest and judging from the fact that only 37% of the electorate voted brexit I would say I'm not alone. Of those who voted brexit, only half said the ability for UK politicians to make decisions for them was most important. So all in all there doesn't seem to be a great deal of anti EU law sentiment. Not forgetting that most brexiters who claim not to like EU law have a very poor understanding of any of it.

 

Agree on the 2nd paragraph quoted though. May and the Tories really are pitiful in that respect. Embarrassing weak.

I'm not speaking for you, but surely you recognise the bristling indignation of the British toward EU laws and directives?

 

Yes, the government does seem too weak to deal with this but they are still the lesser evil.  There is no viable alternative.

Edited 1 March 2018 by murphy

[Buce]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

You're right. 

 

For some reason, the UK government has taken a very lax approach to the freedom of movement starting with Tony Blair and his reluctance to enact any restrictions when Poland joined and reluctance to enact the idea that it is supposed to be freedom of labour rather than feedom of movement.  Ironic that this arch-Europhile should really be the architect of Brexit.

 

I'm self employed now but at my last job, we had a lot of Polish workers and I've got to say they impressed me with their near Teutonic work ethic.  That said, it is hard not to have some sympathy with the likes of Spalding and Boston for example who have seen their towns transformed by migration into something that they no longer recognise.

 

It doesn't really matter who it is.  Even if we were experiencing mass immigration of Brazillian supermodels there is a point when migration becomes too much.  It is a question of numbers.  But, yes, we as a country could have managed the situation better.

 

 

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You lost the argument right there.

[lifted*fox]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

Even if we were experiencing mass immigration of Brazillian supermodels there is a point when migration becomes too much.

 

[Rogstanley]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

I'm not speaking for you, but surely you recognise the bristling indignation of the British toward EU laws and directives?

No not really. Like I said, if you look at the referendum and the reasons behind people's decisions, it shows less than 20% of the electorate voted leave mainly because of the EU's powers. 

 

20% is not insignificant, but it's a clear minority.

[Saxondale]

On 2/28/2018 at 13:54, Fox Ulike said:

The Dark ages seems a bit far-fetched. Can Brexit have a worse effect than the financial crash of 2008?

Yes, it will. The '08 crash will seem like a walk in the park in comparison.

 

It's the amount of people put out of work that is really going to kill it, along with increased prices of goods and services. The pound will become a joke currency.