Gamesmaster Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 Do you think St Georges Day should become a public holiday in England?
Steven Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 Do you think St Georges Day should become a public holiday in England? Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Newcastle_Fox Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 I won a carling st georges day fridge this St Georges Day from them, full of beer aswell! What a website, and yes I support St Georges day as it is my birthday!!!
Gamesmaster Posted 2 December 2005 Author Posted 2 December 2005 Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. dont be a meanie racist. if English people wana celebrate their nationality, and vote St George`s day, a bank holiday, they shouldnt be told its wrong. be nice steven.
Fox Mulder Posted 2 December 2005 Posted 2 December 2005 Isn't St George also the patron saint of Germany too? I mean, it's all a load of meaningless old bollocks isn't it?
stez Posted 2 December 2005 Posted 2 December 2005 Isn't St George also the patron saint of Germany too? I mean, it's all a load of meaningless old bollocks isn't it? portugal i heard
Alexikokopops Posted 2 December 2005 Posted 2 December 2005 dont be a meanie racist. if English people wana celebrate their nationality, and vote St George`s day, a bank holiday, they shouldnt be told its wrong. be nice steven. If I want to celebrate my nationality I'm not celebrating the fact that an Albanian killed a mythical beast.
Alexikokopops Posted 2 December 2005 Posted 2 December 2005 I was over in Australia and I was asked "Are you proud to be an American" and I was like, "I don't know. I didn't have a lot to do with it, you know. My parents focked there, that's about all. You know, I was in the spirit realm at that time. "fock in Paris! fock in Paris!" but they couldn't hear me, cos I didn't have a mouth. I was a spirit without lungs or a mouth or vocal cords. "They focked here. Ok, I'm proud. I hate patriotism. I can't stand it, man. Makes me **** sick. It's a round world last time I checked, OK? You know what I mean? I hate patriotism. In fact, that's how we could stop patriotism. I think. Instead of putting stars and stripes on our flags, we should put pictures of our parents ****. Gather people round that flag and see you dad hunched over your mum's big four-by-four butt. See if any boot rally mentality can circle round that little **** image. God... damn, I'm out of here! fock it! Get your mum, shut up! Let's go garden. Bill Hicks 1993
Deathside Posted 2 December 2005 Posted 2 December 2005 Whilst I would not argue with an extra bank holiday - I object strongly to the idea of a holiday in celebration of national pride
filbertway Posted 2 December 2005 Posted 2 December 2005 Whilst I would not argue with an extra bank holiday - I object strongly to the idea of a holiday in celebration of national pride Why
Steven Posted 3 December 2005 Posted 3 December 2005 I strongly disagree with national pride Napolean, Hitler, Mussolini, Goerge Bush Junior and others. I like and love my country but I do not have to wear that on my sleeve.
cisono Posted 3 December 2005 Posted 3 December 2005 Do you think St Georges Day should become a public holiday in England? If not a St Georges day, at least a George Best day
Steven Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 If not a St Georges day, at least a George Best day So instead of an Albanian, an Irishman. <_<
King Kyle lcfc Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 i'm quite suprised the muslims haven't tried to ban st georges day yet as it is not P.C so a bank holiday for it would be out of the question. Rule Brittania?
Thracian Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 Napolean, Hitler, Mussolini, Goerge Bush Junior and others. I like and love my country but I do not have to wear that on my sleeve. Yet many people wear their football club colours with immense pride. And we wear em when the club has bad or even awful managers, just like the countries really. Many people like something to rally round, be it a club, a country, a religion, a bloomin maypole. Gives them a sense of belonging, a purpose, something to look forward to. It's more animate than watching TV... or listening to Barber on the radio. Take the holiday I say. Don't knock anything that promises a good time (for free!)
Deathside Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 Yet many people wear their football club colours with immense pride. And we wear em when the club has bad or even awful managers, just like the countries really. Many people like something to rally round, be it a club, a country, a religion, a bloomin maypole. Gives them a sense of belonging, a purpose, something to look forward to. It's more animate than watching TV... or listening to Barber on the radio. Take the holiday I say. Don't knock anything that promises a good time (for free!) That's how I treat the majority of bank holls - I take the 'free' day but as most are based on religion they really mean fúck all to me
stez Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 Yet many people wear their football club colours with immense pride. And we wear em when the club has bad or even awful managers, just like the countries really. Many people like something to rally round, be it a club, a country, a religion, a bloomin maypole. Gives them a sense of belonging, a purpose, something to look forward to. It's more animate than watching TV... or listening to Barber on the radio. Take the holiday I say. Don't knock anything that promises a good time (for free!) you're having a laugh? bank holidays cost me loads in days out, diy and 1st aid equipment! anyway i hope all the not showing pride in your country types never get proud seeing any national success be it sport or inventing or whatever?
Steven Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 you're having a laugh? bank holidays cost me loads in days out, diy and 1st aid equipment! anyway i hope all the not showing pride in your country types never get proud seeing any national success be it sport or inventing or whatever? I am all for pride but not for triumphalism. triumphalismTriumphalism is the attitude or belief that a particular doctrine, culture, or social system â€â€particularly a religious or political oneâ€â€is superior and that it will or should triumph over all others. The term is occasionally used to refer to excessively demonstrative glee or gloating at the defeat or failure of a rival. Triumphalism is not an articulated doctrine. Humans exhibit triumphalism in its innocuous recreational forms as collective pride (as in school spirit) or in joyful sports fanaticism (“We’re Number One!â€Â). In its more consequential forms, triumphalism is spoken of as a danger both to the group that holds triumphalist beliefs and to the groups that must deal with them. Triumphalism can be enjoyable for those who hold the attitude or belief. For example, people with an extreme sense of patriotism may experience comfort, security, pride, and even virtue in their sense of superiority and inevitable ascendancy. However, the dangers of triumphalism to one’s own group include: * Impaired ability to judge the value or morality of the group's actions ("If we're doing it, it must not be wrong."); * Cessation of creativity and innovation within the group ("We're the best, so we need to stay exactly the way we are and must not change."); * Blindness to other groups’ strengths and innovations ("We need not attend to other groups, because we have nothing to learn from them."); * Inattention to internal weaknesses and to changing circumstances that affect the welfare of the group, perhaps due to psychological denial or to a false sense of security, control, or invulnerability; and * A tendency to over-reach against the group’s competitors, based on an inflated sense of the likelihood of triumph in conflict. The dangers of triumphalism to other groups include: * Attempts at domination or silencing of other groups; and * Damage to shared resources inflicted by groups that do not perceive other groups’ interests to be as valid or legitimate as their own.
stez Posted 4 December 2005 Posted 4 December 2005 I am all for pride but not for triumphalism. i didn't say showing triumphalism as in your quote there, but surely i am allowed to enjoy an england win?
Gamesmaster Posted 6 December 2005 Author Posted 6 December 2005 Napolean, Hitler, Mussolini, Goerge Bush Junior and others. I like and love my country but I do not have to wear that on my sleeve. do you wear the Lestonian image on your sleeve? like the george best gag i though st george was turkish?
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