Change In Ownership - Companies House

[Daggers]

6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

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Nope. Not gunna be Rick-rolled. Try harder. 

[Tommy G]

6 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Do people just refresh companies house every day to see of any changes?  The amount of threads referring to companies house is mad.

You can set up alerts for specific companies as you wish, any new filings you’ll get notified 

[Pita]

At the moment it’s only a paper chase more than likely nothing to worry about 

[Sly]

A few more documents have hit Companies House.

 

We can’t see what they are for a few days, however they’re “Resolution of allotment of securities”

 

Transferring all shares to Top? 
 

Raising funds by generating more shares? 
 

Someone new? 

I’m sure someone who is more finance savvy with these things will have a better answer! 

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

A few more documents have hit Companies House.

 

We can’t see what they are for a few days, however they’re “Resolution of allotment of securities”

 

Transferring all shares to Top? 
 

Raising funds by generating more shares? 
 

Someone new? 

I’m sure someone who is more finance savvy with these things will have a better answer! 

Have to wait to see them 

wonder what date they’re from!

 

they provide for the board to be able to issue new shares etc. if they’re from 2019 then it doesn’t mean  much in itself because we’ve seen nothing notable since then.  They could be from the period back then where top took a controlling shareholding. If they’re current then much more interesting. 
 

I’ll wait until these are visible but I can see myself drifting towards the ‘no smoke without fire’ camp. 

Edited 30 November 2024 by st albans fox

[whoareyaaa]

59 minutes ago, Sly said:

A few more documents have hit Companies House.

 

We can’t see what they are for a few days, however they’re “Resolution of allotment of securities”

 

Transferring all shares to Top? 
 

Raising funds by generating more shares? 
 

Someone new? 

I’m sure someone who is more finance savvy with these things will have a better answer! 

With Top currently stepping up maybe he didn't have the control to do so previous to this change ?

[Sly]

45 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Have to wait to see them 

wonder what date they’re from!

 

they provide for the board to be able to issue new shares etc. if they’re from 2019 then it doesn’t mean  much in itself because we’ve seen nothing notable since then.  They could be from the period back then where top took a controlling shareholding. If they’re current then much more interesting. 
 

I’ll wait until these are visible but I can see myself drifting towards the ‘no smoke without fire’ camp. 

Yes, that was my opinion.

 

Would would have seen the influx of capital into the accounts if it was from 2019? It could be minimal I suppose, therefore insignificant.

[Sly]

44 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

With Top currently stepping up maybe he didn't have the control to do so previous to this change ?

Could be an element of that. 
 

We’ve still got some odd Directors at the club, like that polo player. 

[Sly]

Another update and this one is massive! 
 

 

[Guest Lako42]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

Another update and this one is massive! 
 

 

Lying to companies house now I see

[st albans fox]

The detail on security allotment is now visible 

seems we made it possible to issue £195m security into shares dec 22 and £76m apr 23.  That’s from secured debt to shares. I think we knew that KingPower  had converted the 195m but I hadn’t seen anything about the 76m. It may not have happened - it’s just authorisation for the directors to do it.  The fact they’ve filed it makes me think it did happen.  I’m pretty sure that the debt was owed to KP. If they’ve converted all that to shares then does that mean top is still in control ?  unless they are a different share class. 
 

thinking about the sorting out that’s clearly been going on with documentation at companies house, I wonder if this is advice received from the lawyers that if we end up in a big legal confrontation with the PL or EFL, it won’t look great if their legal people are able to point out basic paperwork that still wasn’t updated over the past decade and what that might indicate about our respect for rules and regs ….

[Sly]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

The detail on security allotment is now visible 

seems we made it possible to issue £195m security into shares dec 22 and £76m apr 23.  That’s from secured debt to shares. I think we knew that KingPower  had converted the 195m but I hadn’t seen anything about the 76m. It may not have happened - it’s just authorisation for the directors to do it.  The fact they’ve filed it makes me think it did happen.  I’m pretty sure that the debt was owed to KP. If they’ve converted all that to shares then does that mean top is still in control ?  unless they are a different share class. 
 

thinking about the sorting out that’s clearly been going on with documentation at companies house, I wonder if this is advice received from the lawyers that if we end up in a big legal confrontation with the PL or EFL, it won’t look great if their legal people are able to point out basic paperwork that still wasn’t updated over the past decade and what that might indicate about our respect for rules and regs ….

I think you’ve most likely hit the nail on the head with some of this. 
 

Or I wondered if it was the new Finance Director tidying things up. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

6 hours ago, st albans fox said:

The detail on security allotment is now visible 

seems we made it possible to issue £195m security into shares dec 22 and £76m apr 23.  That’s from secured debt to shares. I think we knew that KingPower  had converted the 195m but I hadn’t seen anything about the 76m. It may not have happened - it’s just authorisation for the directors to do it.  The fact they’ve filed it makes me think it did happen.  I’m pretty sure that the debt was owed to KP. If they’ve converted all that to shares then does that mean top is still in control ?  unless they are a different share class. 
 

thinking about the sorting out that’s clearly been going on with documentation at companies house, I wonder if this is advice received from the lawyers that if we end up in a big legal confrontation with the PL or EFL, it won’t look great if their legal people are able to point out basic paperwork that still wasn’t updated over the past decade and what that might indicate about our respect for rules and regs ….

Ties in given company secretarial has also moved from the finance team to now being looked after by the GC and the legal team.

[Sly]

23 hours ago, Lako42 said:

Lying to companies house now I see

I mean, Cooper lied that he was a football coach, maybe somethings in the water.