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[st albans fox]

26 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o

 

Rehashing what is essentially an existing deal and selling it as a win. How very on brand for the used car salesman con artist ethos currently prevalent over there.

As expected 

is there any significance in the timing re the sabre rattling ongoing across the European continent ??

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

As expected 

is there any significance in the timing re the sabre rattling ongoing across the European continent ??

Good question, there might be but wouldn't be sure on that one.

[Bellend Sebastian]

46 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o

 

Rehashing what is essentially an existing deal and selling it as a win. How very on brand for the used car salesman con artist ethos currently prevalent over there.

With the fact that the Americans had drastically reduced their own military presence there over recent decades by choice entirely missing from the discourse.

 

A golden age of people not knowing anything or even wanting to

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o

 

Rehashing what is essentially an existing deal and selling it as a win. How very on brand for the used car salesman con artist ethos currently prevalent over there.

The "and all other things" part is a little worrying.

[leicsmac]

57 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The "and all other things" part is a little worrying.

It is, but seeing as the man and everyone around him/who backs him lie as easily as most people breathe, I'm willing to wait a little to see how this plays out.

 

One would think and hope that the Danes, at least, have been sensible. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

It is, but seeing as the man and everyone around him/who backs him lie as easily as most people breathe, I'm willing to wait a little to see how this plays out.

 

One would think and hope that the Danes, at least, have been sensible. 

@shen, do you have a sensible government?

[shen]

2 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

@shen, do you have a sensible government?

Meh, not as sensible as what we used to have. Hopefully they didn't give Trump more than what his aggression deserves. 

[Zear0]

Good luck to Vlad and United Russia in the elections today, sure it’ll be a close result.

[Trav Le Bleu]

I wonder if Ed Sheeran did a cover version of All By Myself last night?

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c54g7jdmw032o

 

Interesting that the juror decided to waive his right to anonymity. And it goes to show jury nullification is free to cut in all directions.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c54g7jdmw032o

 

Interesting that the juror decided to waive his right to anonymity. And it goes to show jury nullification is free to cut in all directions.

I think that proving anything, even things we largely take for granted, beyond reasonable doubt, to everyone, is nigh on impossible.

 

I think the hold out juror doesn't understand what beyond reasonable doubt means.

[leicsmac]

14 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I think that proving anything, even things we largely take for granted, beyond reasonable doubt, to everyone, is nigh on impossible.

 

I think the hold out juror doesn't understand what beyond reasonable doubt means.

I think it's an extreme probability that you're right, and/or the juror is making a decision based on his own personal conscience and prejudices, rather than the strict application of the law as it should be. 

 

Be that as it may in this particular case, I do however think the right to nullify a jury verdict based on such principles is an important one that merits protection, as it acts as an additional check and balance against overzealous judiciary and governments passing overzealous legislation. Which, IMO, is sometimes very much necessary. 

 

In short, while I think the bloke had it wrong in this case (for the same reason as you), I'm going to agree with his right to be wrong and act upon it here.  

Edited 19 hours ago by leicsmac