Dellyjo Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Yep, he was a good leader although a dirty little sh^te!
Daggers Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 F*ing a**hole tw*t - hated him. I didn't think it possible but when he spat the dummy and walked out on Eire I hated him even more.
Ultra Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 To be fair he was dealing with a manager for whom he had zero respect. Having seen McCarthy's appalling record at Sunderland, we can all see why! Keane was one of the best players ever to play Premiership football and his record of honours should speak for itself. He deserves better than to be dissed with cheap racist comments.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 June 2006 Author Posted 12 June 2006 To be fair he was dealing with a manager for whom he had zero respect. Having seen McCarthy's appalling record at Sunderland, we can all see why! Keane was one of the best players ever to play Premiership football and his record of honours should speak for itself. He deserves better than to be dissed with cheap racist comments. Who's being racist? Irish thug, Irish legend, Irish midfielder, whatever you think he's still Irish.
Phube Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 To be fair he was dealing with a manager for whom he had zero respect. Having seen McCarthy's appalling record at Sunderland, we can all see why! Keane was one of the best players ever to play Premiership football and his record of honours should speak for itself. He deserves better than to be dissed with cheap racist comments. Sunderland winning the Championship - shocking!!! Should have been sacked straight away!! Alfie Inge Haarland, I'm sure he agrees with your second point!!! Third, coverd by Fez above!!!
Chairman of the Bored Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Roy Keane was a genius. He will be sadly missed. Who says so? Alf Inge Haaland. When's he managing LCFC in 4 years time I wonder what we'll think about him them? Enjoy your retirement Roy.
Chairman of the Bored Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Keane injured himself in that incident! Just trying a minor trip on Alfie boy. Were you at Forest in blah blah blah when Haaland came up to the City fans and started taking the piss? I was rather pleased when Keano had him. What goes around comes around.
Daggers Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 He deserves better than to be dissed with cheap racist comments. What racist comments?
Ultra Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 What racist comments? See the title of the thread. Bringing Keane's nationality into it is not particularly helpful. And I don't think Paddy McCarthy, whose own disciplinary record is hardly perfect, would be too impressed either.
Ultra Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Sunderland winning the Championship - shocking!!! Should have been sacked straight away!! 2 Premiership wins in 38 games is the more relevant point. He was clearly out of his depth at that level, let alone in international football. Alfie Inge Haarland, I'm sure he agrees with your second point!!! Actually he does, as has already been noted.. Third, coverd by Fez above!!! And replied to, above!
Daggers Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 See the title of the thread. Bringing Keane's nationality into it is not particularly helpful. And I don't think Paddy McCarthy, whose own disciplinary record is hardly perfect, would be too impressed either. "Irish thug" can be in no way deemed as being racist. It is as much a description of him as labrador walking tosser or intellectually chalenged nincompoop. If it had been "Mick thug quits" or "Paddy prat quits" or any of a hundred other prosaic phrases then there could have been some justification to your response. But, calling an Irish man Irish hasn't become an offense yet. If it has then God help the commentators of the World Cup who will be refering to nationalities throughout the tournament.
Thracian Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Just a question. Would no-one have liked to have had him playing for us? For Leesoh's benefit Keane was just the sort of player I would like in our team - a midfielder who could pass, could tackle, could shoot, covered acres of ground, always supported the front men, always supported the defence, had attitude a plenty, would die for the cause, demanded everything off everyone and was a proven winner throughout his career. Furthermore, as far as I can gather, every manager who ever signed him felt the same. I even liked him most of the time because he was one of the few prepared to speak his mind instead of coming the party line. Sadly, to me, football is getting more and more like tennis in that the characters are disappearing and the game is being sanitised, ironically by people who should really be in court from what I've heard. Keane wasn't always right by any means but he did fly a flag for the individual and was like a breath of fresh air for his refusal to be tamed by Ferguson or by anyone else. Have a great retirement Roy. One of the few who could honestly say he never willingly took a step backwards either as a footballer or as a person.
Ultra Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 "Irish thug" can be in no way deemed as being racist. Sorry, but legal opinion suggests otherwise. If uttered in a pub or at a ground it could well land you on a charge. If the poster had previously referred to Paddy Mac/Neil Lennon/MON as "Irish genius" I may have been a tad more sympathetic..
Ultra Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Just a question. Would no-one have liked to have had him playing for us? For Leesoh's benefit Keane was just the sort of player I would like in our team - a midfielder who could pass, could tackle, could shoot, covered acres of ground, always supported the front men, always supported the defence, had attitude a plenty, would die for the cause, demanded everything off everyone and was a proven winner throughout his career. Furthermore, as far as I can gather, every manager who ever signed him felt the same. I even liked him most of the time because he was one of the few prepared to speak his mind instead of coming the party line. Sadly, to me, football is getting more and more like tennis in that the characters are disappearing and the game is being sanitised, ironically by people who should really be in court from what I've heard. Keane wasn't always right by any means but he did fly a flag for the individual and was like a breath of fresh air for his refusal to be tamed by Ferguson or by anyone else. Have a great retirement Roy. One of the few who could honestly say he never willingly took a step backwards either as a footballer or as a person. He was a class apart. During the MON era, all Premiership managers were asked in a survey to name their ideal signing. The overwhelming majority, MON included, immediately chose Keane. That shows the esteem in which he was held throughout the game. Man Utd have yet to replace him, and it may be some years before they do..
Fez of Mahrez Posted 13 June 2006 Author Posted 13 June 2006 Sorry, but legal opinion suggests otherwise. If uttered in a pub or at a ground it could well land you on a charge. If the poster had previously referred to Paddy Mac/Neil Lennon/MON as "Irish genius" I may have been a tad more sympathetic.. To be honest, I just looked at the headline of the website I was reading where it said "Irish legend quits" and changed it to thug because I didn't particularly like the bloke, but don't bother your pretty little head about reasons or justification, just barrel on in with the racist accusations.
Steven Posted 13 June 2006 Posted 13 June 2006 "Irish thug" can be in no way deemed as being racist. It is as much a description of him as labrador walking tosser or intellectually chalenged nincompoop. If it had been "Mick thug quits" or "Paddy prat quits" or any of a hundred other prosaic phrases then there could have been some justification to your response. But, calling an Irish man Irish hasn't become an offense yet. If it has then God help the commentators of the World Cup who will be refering to nationalities throughout the tournament. I beg to differ. The use of the word Irish in this case is gratuitous.
Daggers Posted 13 June 2006 Posted 13 June 2006 Sorry, but legal opinion suggests otherwise. If uttered in a pub or at a ground it could well land you on a charge. Who's legal opinion? As someone who has campaigned against racism and fascism I find this accusation to be holding very little water indeed. It would be incumbent on the CPS to demonstrate that the term 'Irish' was being used in a fashion with the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life . Quite obviously, in this instance, the case would not be held. I would contend that using such a pejorative term as racist leaves you in a far weaker position should anyone wish to seek legal redress.
Steven Posted 13 June 2006 Posted 13 June 2006 Who's legal opinion? As someone who has campaigned against racism and fascism I find this accusation to be holding very little water indeed. It would be incumbent on the CPS to demonstrate that the term 'Irish' was being used in a fashion with the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life . Quite obviously, in this instance, the case would not be held. I would contend that using such a pejorative term as racist leaves you in a far weaker position should anyone wish to seek legal redress. Clearly not on an equal footing with someone merely described as a thug.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 13 June 2006 Author Posted 13 June 2006 Clearly not on an equal footing with someone merely described as a thug. No you're right, I did call him Irish with the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life. I also give regularly to the BNP, march up and down Leicester with "Asians go home" signs and sing "Two World Wars and One World Cup" whenever anything even vaguely connected with Germany passes before my eyes. Nutjob.
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