Irish thug quits

[Thracian]

Who's legal opinion?

As someone who has campaigned against racism and fascism I find this accusation to be holding very little water indeed.

It would be incumbent on the CPS to demonstrate that the term 'Irish' was being used in a fashion with the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life .

Quite obviously, in this instance, the case would not be held.

I would contend that using such a pejorative term as racist leaves you in a far weaker position should anyone wish to seek legal redress.

If that third paragraph contains quoted legal jargon no wonder people struggle to understand the law.

I would like to see the day when all law is written in plain English. There is no need for anything else.

Many legal problems in this country seem to be caused by ambiguous or multi-concept phraseology and it will ever be the case while those laws are indecipherable to the layman who therefore stands unfairly disadvantaged.

To explain. The problem of the third paragraph is that it contains too many complex ideas within the same sentence and therefore its interpretation would invariably be contentious.

[MC Prussian]

Roy Keane, stirring trouble even after his retirement...

[The People's Hero]

If that third paragraph contains quoted legal jargon no wonder people struggle to understand the law.

I would like to see the day when all law is written in plain English. There is no need for anything else.

Many legal problems in this country seem to be caused by ambiguous or multi-concept phraseology and it will ever be the case while those laws are indecipherable to the layman who therefore stands unfairly disadvantaged.

To explain. The problem of the third paragraph is that it contains too many complex ideas within the same sentence and therefore its interpretation would invariably be contentious.

Thracian, I find this to be the opposite of the truth.

Legal jargon exists due to the fact that is HAS to be so precise. Plain English has become so convoluted and many words have a variety of similar meanings due to repeated misuse that one man's interpretation of a 'plain english' law would be completely different to anothers.

I'm not having a go at you mate, because I find it hard work ploughing through law stuff, but it is that way for a reason.

[Daggers]

Roy Keane, stirring trouble even after his retirement...

[Thracian]

Thracian, I find this to be the opposite of the truth.

Legal jargon exists due to the fact that is HAS to be so precise. Plain English has become so convoluted and many words have a variety of similar meanings due to repeated misuse that one man's interpretation of a 'plain english' law would be completely different to anothers.

I'm not having a go at you mate, because I find it hard work ploughing through law stuff, but it is that way for a reason.

Yeah. Keeping lawyers in a job because no-one else can understand it.

Precision doesn't need to be complicated, especially not at every turn. Good luck with your bedtime reading though!!!.

[Steven]

No you're right, I did call him Irish with the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

I also give regularly to the BNP, march up and down Leicester with "Asians go home" signs and sing "Two World Wars and One World Cup" whenever anything even vaguely connected with Germany passes before my eyes.

Nutjob.

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[Chairman of the Bored]

Keano!

[Ultra]

I also give regularly to the BNP, march up and down Leicester with "Asians go home" signs and sing "Two World Wars and One World Cup" whenever anything even vaguely connected with Germany passes before my eyes.

Nutjob.

You don't work on Leicester market, do you?

Not everyone appreciates irony..

[Anish]

To be fair he was dealing with a manager for whom he had zero respect.

Having seen McCarthy's appalling record at Sunderland, we can all see why!

Keane was one of the best players ever to play Premiership football and his record of honours should speak for itself.

He deserves better than to be dissed with cheap racist comments.

Just a question. Would no-one have liked to have had him playing for us?

For Leesoh's benefit Keane was just the sort of player I would like in our team - a midfielder who could pass, could tackle, could shoot, covered acres of ground, always supported the front men, always supported the defence, had attitude a plenty, would die for the cause, demanded everything off everyone and was a proven winner throughout his career.

Furthermore, as far as I can gather, every manager who ever signed him felt the same.

I even liked him most of the time because he was one of the few prepared to speak his mind instead of coming the party line.

Sadly, to me, football is getting more and more like tennis in that the characters are disappearing and the game is being sanitised, ironically by people who should really be in court from what I've heard.

Keane wasn't always right by any means but he did fly a flag for the individual and was like a breath of fresh air for his refusal to be tamed by Ferguson or by anyone else.

Have a great retirement Roy. One of the few who could honestly say he never willingly took a step backwards either as a footballer or as a person.

Agreed with the above.

Keane was one of the best all round midfielders to grace the Premiership and stands alongside many of football's greats. He led Man United to their dominance of English football and was a born winner.

The fact that he spoke his mind also endeared him to me and many others - he didn't fear anyone and always spoke his mind (which eventually ended his Man United career), something that is distinctly lacking in this game today. Too many people are too scared to tell the truth and express their opinions just because of the consequences.

No matter how much you dislike the man, you should recognise the effect he had on every team he played for and his work ethic.

[Thracian]

Agreed with the above.

Keane was one of the best all round midfielders to grace the Premiership and stands alongside many of football's greats. He led Man United to their dominance of English football and was a born winner.

The fact that he spoke his mind also endeared him to me and many others - he didn't fear anyone and always spoke his mind (which eventually ended his Man United career), something that is distinctly lacking in this game today. Too many people are too scared to tell the truth and express their opinions just because of the consequences.

No matter how much you dislike the man, you should recognise the effect he had on every team he played for and his work ethic.

Moderators!!! Has this come up under the wrong user name and Avatar??? Only joking Anish but its not often we agree. Let's hope that makes it a special day and augers well for the England match!!!