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Player Ratings - England v Portugal

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England

* 01 P Robinson - 6 Solid, with a few flaws when facing shots on the ground

* 02 G Neville - 5 A few risky passes in the back, but more or less reliable

* 06 J Terry yellow card - 6 Too exhausted, one or two good scenes up front

* 05 R Ferdinand - 6 Nowt special

* 03 A Cole - 7 Always on the move, running up and down, lots of initiative

* 16 O Hargreaves yellow card - 8 MOTM Simply everywhere, I hope this performance silences his critics once and for all

* 07 D Beckham - 4 Disappeared, too weakened

* 04 S Gerrard - 5 Not enough influence on the game, seen almost nowhere

* 08 F Lampard - 6 Apart from a few shots on goal, never lived up to the player he is in the Prem

* 11 J Cole - 5 A shadow of himself, never came close to his form that he displayed vs. Sweden

* 09 W Rooney red card - 6 Couldn't do much up there on his own

(51 A Lennon ) - 7 Very good as a disturber up front, brought in some fresh legs and fresh air

(65 P Crouch ) - 6 Did what he could on his own, similar story to Rooney

(117 J Carragher) - N/A Not enough impact on the game

Referee gets a 5, the red card against Rooney was way too harsh. That Portuguese know how to impress the man in black with a beautiful theatre performance.

This is the appropriate end for the Sven Era, not just because you were lacking Owen. This 4-1-4-1 system is bollocks, and the game was suffering from nausea... Caused by both teams.

Tell me what, this WC's one of the most boring competitions in the last 16 years.

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This is the appropriate end for the Sven Era, not just because you were lacking Owen. This 4-1-4-1 system is bollocks, and the game was suffering from nausea... Caused by both teams.

Tell me what, this WC's one of the most boring competitions in the last 16 years.

You can hardly talk about us after the Swiss against Ukraine, a total disgrace, wasn't deserving of the WC.

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You can hardly talk about us after the Swiss against Ukraine, a total disgrace, wasn't deserving of the WC.

Tbh with you, I didn't spot much difference between those two games, apart from the one sending off.

The whole tournament (especially the phase after the group games) is making me yawn.

Nothing really exciting, more a culmination of uninspirational displays. I want goals, not shootouts, goddammit! :angry:

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robbo-6

neville-6

ferdinand-7

terry-7

cole-7

becks-5

lampard-4

gerrard-5

hargreaves-9

cole-5

rooney-5

lennon-7.5

crouch-7

carragher-5

sven-good riddence

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Robbo 7

Neville 6

Ferdinand 7

Terry 7

A Cole 6 - Didn't close down enough and gave them room,

J Cole 6 - Scared to attack down the left.

Hargeaves 8 - Solid

Lampard 6 - Poor, his job is to attack and he did it poorly

Gerrard 5 - Shocking, just like Ecuador, his passing and shooting were crap

Beckham 6 - Did **** all again

Rooney 6 - Totally unsupported, again

SUBS:

Lennon 7 - Did well

Crouch 7 - Did well

Carragher - It wasn't a bad penalty really

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Carragher - It wasn't a bad penalty really

You are being sarcastic aren't you, trying to fool the keeper with a stutter really. For christ's sake he is a central defender who has always showed poor distribution of the ball in a game, not Ronaldinho who might get away with an effort like that!

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You are being sarcastic aren't you, trying to fool the keeper with a stutter really. For christ's sake he is a central defender who has always showed poor distribution of the ball in a game, not Ronaldinho who might get away with an effort like that!

The stutter is something that doesn't make a difference in my opinion, if he hadn't of stuttered the keeper still would od saved it.

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Robinson 7.5 (Hard to fault).

Neville 8 (He presence made everything much easier for his right sided colleagues despite dangerous opponents).

Terry 8 (Commanding on a trying day).

Ferdinand 8 (Quality on the day)

Ashley Cole 8 (Similar to Neville, did much to blunt Portugal's attacks)

Beckham 5 (Started better but his crosses got worse and worse and we stopped getting round the back as the game progressed)

Lampard 7 (An altogether better game but the penalty emphasised that he cannot buy a goal and SGE hadn't got the personality to psyche him into getting one)

Hargreaves 9 (Man of the match by a distance)

Gerrard 6 (Just never had enough influence for me)

Joe Cole 6 (Similar to Gerrard. Presumably under orders not to take people on and never had a rampant attack to bring the best out of him)

Rooney 4 (Worked industriously until his brainstorm but the tactics nullified his talent which was proof of how awful they were)

Subs:

Crouch 7.5 (As dangerous as he could be. He had two excellent chances and it was a pity he couldn't convert, but he was around to have them on a barren day for everyone and otherwise was a real hero in sticking to a thankless task)

Lennon 6.5 (Some dangerous runs and should have been given more of the ball although that was understandably not easy with a man short).

Carragher 2 (No relevence apart from his penalty. Unusually seemed to lose heart after the referees decision to order a retake).

SGE: There are no words printable which would adequately describe my contempt for the man not just today but throughout the competition). But then I would never have chosen his sort to manage England so we got what we deserved and what I expected to the very round.

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I tell you what, not having to listen to negative commentators was beautiful. The Fan Park was just full of a sense of positivity...hence my number are much more complimentary to those of you that sucked in the waffle.

robbo-7.5 - Had a very solid game, never conceeded a goal FFS

neville-7 - ran well, overlapped and supplied great passes

ferdinand-8 - provided solid cover

terry-8 despite some minor lapses was constant in defence

cole-7 - gave as good a game as i think he can give

becks- 8 - his best performance for ages until injury. He ran his heart out today.

lampard - 5 - sadly lacking in anything going forward although defensively he was "ok"

gerrard - 6 slightly better than Lamps

hargreaves - 10 - He bled Three Lions, I could never ask more of a player

cole - 6.5 - closed down as a key player, we did not change tactics as a result

rooney- 7 - did all he could do

lennon-7 - great effort

crouch-7 - given a losing mans hand

carragher - not fair to score a man put on just to take a pen

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I think playing with Beckham is playing with 10 men.

Apart from long balls, and dead balls, he contributes nothing.

I would rather have someone like Lennon on the pitch actually creating opportunities.

Any wonder that we always play better without Becks? I bet McClaren will not have the balls to drop him though...

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I think playing with Beckham is playing with 10 men.

Don't matter none - you've just seen his last international. I'll put a ton on it... :thumbup:

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Robinson - 8 - Never looked like being beaten

Neville - 7

Terry - 8

Ferdinand - 9

A. Cole - 7

Beckham - 5

Lampard - 6

Hargreaves - 8

Gerrard - 7

J. Cole - 6

Rooney - 5 (too closely marked)

Subs

Lennon - 7

Crouch - 7

Carragher - 5 (what the hell was he doing taking a penalty anyway?)

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Robinson - 7

Neville - 7

Terry - 7

Ferdinand - 7

A.Cole - 6

Beckham - 5

Lampard - 5

Hargreaves - 7

Gerrard - 6

J.Cole - 6

Rooney - 4

Lennon - 7

Crouch - 7

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Don't matter none - you've just seen his last international. I'll put a ton on it... :thumbup:

Surely having given Beckham 8/10, you'd be assuming that he'd be right back in there for the Euro qualifiers?

Who's going to drop him? Sven's no.2 and ex-Man Utd coach Steve MacLaren?

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Surely having given Beckham 8/10, you'd be assuming that he'd be right back in there for the Euro qualifiers?

Who's going to drop him? Sven's no.2 and ex-Man Utd coach Steve MacLaren?

I thought he ran his heart out today, and awarded him the 8 that he will treasure as his proudest moment of the tourno.

But he contributes little nowaday, and he's old. Everyone knows that people over 25 are, like, dead old.

I bet you, seriously - anyone that cares to take it on - we've seen the last of Beckham.

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Don't matter none - you've just seen his last international. I'll put a ton on it... :thumbup:

last international as captain maybe but he still has plenty to offer us yet look at zidane and figo both 34/35 and still at the world stage

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I thought he ran his heart out today, and awarded him the 8 that he will treasure as his proudest moment of the tourno.

But he contributes little nowaday, and he's old. Everyone knows that people over 25 are, like, dead old.

I bet you, seriously - anyone that cares to take it on - we've seen the last of Beckham.

He put in a bit more yakka today. Actually, he was responsible for our three wins in the tournament - the deflected free-kick against Paraguay, the cross for Crouch against T&T and the strike against Ecuador. When you look at it like that, he was our most influential player - positively and negatively! He cries and he vomits too. They should bring out a Becks Tiny Tears Doll.

I think he might decide to do a Nasser Hussain and end his career whilst at (or near) the top. There's no point in having £40M in the bank only to carry on and have everyone hate you.

The pressure is on his position from Lennon now, although Stevie Mac's a Sven-kinda guy and might be loathe to throw away the Becks safety blanket just yet?

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He put in a bit more yakka today. Actually, he was responsible for our three wins in the tournament - the deflected free-kick against Paraguay, the cross for Crouch against T&T and the strike against Ecuador. When you look at it like that, he was our most influential player - positively and negatively! He cries and he vomits too. They should bring out a Becks Tiny Tears Doll.

I think he might decide to do a Nasser Hussain and end his career whilst at (or near) the top. There's no point in having £40M in the bank only to carry on and have everyone hate you.

The pressure is on his position from Lennon now, although Stevie Mac's a Sven-kinda guy and might be loathe to throw away the Becks safety blanket just yet?

I wish we could bring Beckham on just for set-pieces.

I'd consider playing Beckham in the middle, he could release both wingers from that position and he could support the right winger by being there to swing a cross in from deep.

Lampard and Gerrard were shocking all the way through the tournament, they both looked sh*t scared every game. Their passing was poor, they barely made any attacking runs, their shooting was very poor (excert Gerrard against Trinidad) and they never realyl showed any determination to change that.

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Robinson 7.5 (Hard to fault).

Neville 8 (He presence made everything much easier for his right sided colleagues despite dangerous opponents).

Terry 8 (Commanding on a trying day).

Ferdinand 8 (Quality on the day)

Ashley Cole 8 (Similar to Neville, did much to blunt Portugal's attacks)

Beckham 5 (Started better but his crosses got worse and worse and we stopped getting round the back as the game progressed)

Lampard 7 (An altogether better game but the penalty emphasised that he cannot buy a goal and SGE hadn't got the personality to psyche him into getting one)

Hargreaves 9 (Man of the match by a distance)

Gerrard 6 (Just never had enough influence for me)

Joe Cole 6 (Similar to Gerrard. Presumably under orders not to take people on and never had a rampant attack to bring the best out of him)

Rooney 4 (Worked industriously until his brainstorm but the tactics nullified his talent which was proof of how awful they were)

Subs:

Crouch 7.5 (As dangerous as he could be. He had two excellent chances and it was a pity he couldn't convert, but he was around to have them on a barren day for everyone and otherwise was a real hero in sticking to a thankless task)

Lennon 6.5 (Some dangerous runs and should have been given more of the ball although that was understandably not easy with a man short).

Carragher 2 (No relevence apart from his penalty. Unusually seemed to lose heart after the referees decision to order a retake).

SGE: There are no words printable which would adequately describe my contempt for the man not just today but throughout the competition). But then I would never have chosen his sort to manage England so we got what we deserved and what I expected to the very round.

Your spot on there Thrach :thumbup:

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