Who do Leicester people vote for

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

I'd be interested to know which party Leicester people here on this forum support... I see all of the Leicester city seats are Labour but most of the country seats are Tory.

Is this a fair statement? If you chew straw you vote Tory and if you bar hop upmarket cottages you vote Labour, or is it a tad more complicated?

Discuss.

I myself am a Labor bloke with centrist social views and leftist economic tendencies, though as I understand it Tony Blair's Labour might as well be Tory when it comes to economic management. I also support Sinn Féin, but I'm told it's not uncommon to move around on the political spectrum between countries depending on the issues etc.

[Deathside]

There was a time when I refused to vote - However the rise in popularity of scum like the bmp has forced me to cast a vote in more recent times

[Ultra]

I'd be interested to know which party Leicester people here on this forum support... I see all of the Leicester city seats are Labour but most of the country seats are Tory.

Is this a fair statement? If you chew straw you vote Tory and if you bar hop upmarket cottages you vote Labour, or is it a tad more complicated?

Discuss.

I myself am a Labor bloke with centrist social views and leftist economic tendencies, though as I understand it Tony Blair's Labour might as well be Tory when it comes to economic management. I also support Sinn Féin, but I'm told it's not uncommon to move around on the political spectrum between countries depending on the issues etc.

The 3 Labour MPs in Leicester are Labour but the city council is a coalition of Tories and Liberal Democrats.

[Daggers]

Once upon a time I voted

Then I started to take it seriously and became a supporter of

But in utter despair at 'New Labour' I have left and transfered my support to

...which is kind of like going full circle really isn't it?

I am with DS 100% - with the growth in support of the Far Right it is imperative that everyone uses their vote wisely when given the opportunity.

[Shum]

Once upon a time I voted

Then I started to take it seriously and became a supporter of

But in utter despair at 'New Labour' I have left and transfered my support to

...which is kind of like going full circle really isn't it?

I am with DS 100% - with the growth in support of the Far Right it is imperative that everyone uses their vote wisely when given the opportunity.

Labour up to the last election, not so sure now!

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

But in utter despair at 'New Labour' I have left and transfered my support to

...which is kind of like going full circle really isn't it?

I am with DS 100% - with the growth in support of the Far Right it is imperative that everyone uses their vote wisely when given the opportunity.

I must say I do like the way the Lib Dems conduct themselves for a third party... but of course while I like their liberal social approach I have a problem with free market politics!

Ultra - interesting about Lib Dems and Tories on the council... council politics are a lot more issue-focussed though I guess and thus are likely to draw a different support base.

[Dr The Singh]

I must say I do like the way the Lib Dems conduct themselves for a third party... but of course while I like their liberal social approach I have a problem with free market politics!

Ultra - interesting about Lib Dems and Tories on the council... council politics are a lot more issue-focussed though I guess and thus are likely to draw a different support base.

I don't think there is much chioce, conservative and labour are very similar, lib dems as a third party will always be a third party!!!!

[Deathside]

I don't think there is much chioce, conservative and labour are very similar, lib dems as a third party will always be a third party!!!!

Deathside occasionally likes to talk in the third party

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

I don't think there is much chioce, conservative and labour are very similar, lib dems as a third party will always be a third party!!!!

That's what the Americans were saying about Clinton's democrats, it only took a ****smudge like Bush to get in to remind them just how different the two are! There's always another Maggie Thatcher around the corner...

[Dr The Singh]

That's what the Americans were saying about Clinton's democrats, it only took a ****smudge like Bush to get in to remind them just how different the two are! There's always another Maggie Thatcher around the corner...

For once Dan, I hope your wrong!!!

[Phube]

Tory all the way, but hey I live in the county (well Wigston in harborough ward)) and thank God Labour don't have a chance here!!!

Usually:

Tory = 18,000ish

Lib Dem = 12,000ish

Labour = 3,000ish

[Benji]

The next election will be my first vote and i can safely say none of the parties stand out to me. The three main ones just seem to immaturely squabble, they quickly change their ideas to disagree with each other rather than have fixed policies that state the parties ''ideology'' and in effect they all end up saying the same thing. For xample with the war in Iraq, people moan at Labour for the war, yet i would expect had the conservatives or liberals been in power, nothing different would have happened. They all agreed on it but only decided to slate it when it became a public topic.

[Daggers]

I don't think there is much chioce, conservative and labour are very similar, lib dems as a third party will always be a third party!!!!

Au contrare, I think there still exists a difference between the Tory party and Labour. Historically, when one swang left the other swang right, and both would swing back to the middle ground.

What the Conservatives did was take a wild swing to the right, and never really came back. Instead of capitalising on this vacated ground the Lib Dems royally dropped the ball and allowed New Labour to claim it as their own. In the process, Blair started with a program of centerist policies that would have otherwise been claimed by the Tories.

Tory old guard failed to see this and stuck to their guns on right wing issues such as immigration and Europe ~ and have discovered that it is only them, not the bulk of the country, that cares.

In an effort to rebrand them as a party of the people, Dave has tried no end of PR stunts to claim popular support... but they are no more than than, Blair-style spin MkII.

The Lib Dems totter along from one disaster to the next (I didn't vote for Ming the Meek in the leader elections) like a party with a hangover.

So, on policy, there is a lot to choose between simply because the Tories stand for old right wing politics until they publish some clear, costed policies and not just rhetoric. The Lib Dems are a powerful force in local politics but have failed to make any further in roads into Tory land, and will not until we have a leader with character, vision and ability to communicate...although, I still believe, offer the only credible alternative to the other two.

For me, I want a party that stands on principal on national and international issues. The Lib Dems do that.

[Daggers]

...and thank God Labour don't have a chance here!

Regardless of the fact that you, and the country, are better off under labour than you ever were under Tory administration?

[Benji]

Regardless of the fact that you, and the country, are better off under labour than you ever were under Tory administration?

They've had long enough though? You'd be seriously worried if we hadn't progressed by the third term

[Daggers]

The next election will be my first vote and i can safely say none of the parties stand out to me. The three main ones just seem to immaturely squabble, they quickly change their ideas to disagree with each other rather than have fixed policies that state the parties ''ideology'' and in effect they all end up saying the same thing. For xample with the war in Iraq, people moan at Labour for the war, yet i would expect had the conservatives or liberals been in power, nothing different would have happened. They all agreed on it but only decided to slate it when it became a public topic.

I have to disagree Benjii, the Lib Dems have been opposed to the war in Iraq from begining to present in a forthright fashion. The fact that this gets little media attention is another debate, but there exist strong differences. The Lib Dems are the only party calling for an full and instant ceasefire in Lebanon...something most of the cabinet want but Blair will not say.

I chose to lend my support to the Lib Dems on the back of serious research and I can honestly say that I believe that the Lib Dems are the only party that believes in the individual anymore...beyond being a vote!

[Dr The Singh]

Au contrare, I think there still exists a difference between the Tory party and Labour. Historically, when one swang left the other swang right, and both would swing back to the middle ground.

What the Conservatives did was take a wild swing to the right, and never really came back. Instead of capitalising on this vacated ground the Lib Dems royally dropped the ball and allowed New Labour to claim it as their own. In the process, Blair started with a program of centerist policies that would have otherwise been claimed by the Tories.

Tory old guard failed to see this and stuck to their guns on right wing issues such as immigration and Europe ~ and have discovered that it is only them, not the bulk of the country, that cares.

In an effort to rebrand them as a party of the people, Dave has tried no end of PR stunts to claim popular support... but they are no more than than, Blair-style spin MkII.

The Lib Dems totter along from one disaster to the next (I didn't vote for Ming the Meek in the leader elections) like a party with a hangover.

So, on policy, there is a lot to choose between simply because the Tories stand for old right wing politics until they publish some clear, costed policies and not just rhetoric. The Lib Dems are a powerful force in local politics but have failed to make any further in roads into Tory land, and will not until we have a leader with character, vision and ability to communicate...although, I still believe, offer the only credible alternative to the other two.

For me, I want a party that stands on principal on national and international issues. The Lib Dems do that.

Disco Bob, I think they may have one in you??????? But if the Lib Dem wants a dictator, then I will accept the position!!!

[Stevosevic]

[Benji]

I have to disagree Benjii, the Lib Dems have been opposed to the war in Iraq from begining to present in a forthright fashion. The fact that this gets little media attention is another debate, but there exist strong differences. The Lib Dems are the only party calling for an full and instant ceasefire in Lebanon...something most of the cabinet want but Blair will not say.

I chose to lend my support to the Lib Dems on the back of serious research and I can honestly say that I believe that the Lib Dems are the only party that believes in the individual anymore...beyond being a vote!

The only trouble with calling for a ceasefire now though is that you have to wonder about their motives. They know the US have more financial gains from Israel and so will not act towards a ceasefire. Therefore, the puppet Blair will similarly not act towards one. So as their opposition party, and with experience of the Iraq situation where the public has totally turned against Blair for it, they are bound to say that?

I watch question time quite a lot and the Liberal Democrats election episode was probably the best held debate i have watched. All candidates actually seemed to talk sense and in that respect they attracted to me, but since the new appointment of a leader I have heard nothing more of them.

[Daggers]

Disco Bob, I think they may have one in you???????

:laugh:

Nope, I don't think so... far too many in the closet.

[Dr The Singh]

:laugh:

Nope, I don't think so... far too many in the closet.

That will only increase you popularity....nothing more popular then a scandal...........

[Ultra]

I have to disagree Benjii, the Lib Dems have been opposed to the war in Iraq from begining to present in a forthright fashion. The fact that this gets little media attention is another debate, but there exist strong differences. The Lib Dems are the only party calling for an full and instant ceasefire in Lebanon...something most of the cabinet want but Blair will not say.

I chose to lend my support to the Lib Dems on the back of serious research and I can honestly say that I believe that the Lib Dems are the only party that believes in the individual anymore...beyond being a vote!

Living in Leicester and witnessing the opportunism, hypocrisy and incompetence of the Lib Dems while in control of the local council, I have to say that nothing would ever persuade me to vote for them.

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

Tory all the way, but hey I live in the county (well Wigston in harborough ward)) and thank God Labour don't have a chance here!!!

Usually:

Tory = 18,000ish

Lib Dem = 12,000ish

Labour = 3,000ish

2005:

CON 20,536 42.9%

LD 16,664 34.7%

LAB 9,222 19.2%

Haha, that's pretty bad

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

The next election will be my first vote and i can safely say none of the parties stand out to me. The three main ones just seem to immaturely squabble, they quickly change their ideas to disagree with each other rather than have fixed policies that state the parties ''ideology'' and in effect they all end up saying the same thing. For xample with the war in Iraq, people moan at Labour for the war, yet i would expect had the conservatives or liberals been in power, nothing different would have happened. They all agreed on it but only decided to slate it when it became a public topic.

That's a good point, but I think it's much our fault as the parties themselves. Nobody really cares about politics anymore, so they only impact the parties can make is the thirty second squabble they get on the six o'clock news, you know? Petty, but coming from a culture where Big Brother is da bomb, can't really blame em

[Ultra]

Considering the effort that was made to squeeze the Labour vote there, the result wasn't too bad.

By the way Dan, I'm curious about your support for Sinn Fein, given your comments on the Israel thread.

Especially as Sinn Fein enjoyed close links with the PLO for many years, and may still do so.