Sick Scouse Nobbers.

[The People's Hero]

Unfortunately life is not so black and white, there is always another side to the story. And not everybody supports the IDF in what they are doing in the Leb. I bet redshirt sales are going thru the roof right now out there. Keep politics out of football you say, tell that to the old firm, the two have bin at it for decades. KTF ::

No one is saying the actions/attitudes of the Old Firm is right but those clubs are steeped in politics. This is some moron seizing on other people's misery to feel big.

[Finnegan]

Unfortunately life is not so black and white, there is always another side to the story. And not everybody supports the IDF in what they are doing in the Leb. I bet redshirt sales are going thru the roof right now out there. Keep politics out of football you say, tell that to the old firm, the two have bin at it for decades. KTF ::

Is it too much to ask that people read the thread before trying to make a point?

a. Nobody is claiming that either "side" is right in the current war between Israel and the Hezbollah, nobody is making any political argument at all. We're simply stating a level of disgust that people would use such a harsh, topical and downright beyond risqué ploy to take a stab at their opposing fans. It's not like the Liverpool fans responcible were taking any sort of political dig at Israel, they were waving a Lebonese flag at a bunch of every-day Joes, football fans, like you and I, to stir a reaction because their city's being bombed by militia. If you can't see what's wrong in that - you've got issues.

b. Secterian violence in the Old Firm is regretable. Any Northern Irish politics being dragged into Scotish society is regretable - football or otherwise. I agree with you - and when the Old Firm were accused of secterianism they were fined. Liverpool can thank themselves lucky it was just a couple of dickheads with a flag and not worse, else they could well have been looking at being repremanded themselves.

edit. Euch. I cba correcting my spelling mistakes, it's too late.

[Darren27]

First off, Jankers, its neither! both are higher as demonstrated by my ability to spell BASTARD correctly.

Secondly

It's not like the Liverpool fans responcible were taking any sort of political dig at Israel, they were waving a Lebonese flag at a bunch of every-day Joes, football fans, like you and I, to stir a reaction because their city's being bombed by militia. If you can't see what's wrong in that - you've got issues.

Lets not forget that their army, made up of "average Joe football fans", is busy bombing other cities. Ever considered the fact the the flag waver might have been Lebanease? Would you ban some of our overseas supporters from waving their flag just incase someone somewhere is offended by the actions of that countries government?

OK so the Derby analogy may not be the best but that doesnt get around the fact that most people in the world do not like what the Israelis are doing and that they should be reminded of that fact. They sowed the wind, now its harvest time.

[Dr The Singh]

First off, Jankers, its neither! both are higher as demonstrated by my ability to spell BASTARD correctly.

Secondly

Lets not forget that their army, made up of "average Joe football fans", is busy bombing other cities. Ever considered the fact the the flag waver might have been Lebanease? Would you ban some of our overseas supporters from waving their flag just incase someone somewhere is offended by the actions of that countries government?

OK so the Derby analogy may not be the best but that doesnt get around the fact that most people in the world do not like what the Israelis are doing and that they should be reminded of that fact. They sowed the wind, now its harvest time.

No place for that kind of hatred in football, we have seen in world cups nations such as US and Iran get along fine......football is sport and that kind of behaviour is not very sporting!!!!

[Head Honcho]

Didn't I see a flag waved by the Israeli's saying "Chikenpool"

That's outrageous

I mean everybody knows how to spell Chicken

[Finnegan]

Lets not forget that their army, made up of "average Joe football fans", is busy bombing other cities.

Are you that retarded? That's not the point. How many more times must it be said?

For a start, the Israeli army is largely made up of conscripted reserves and youths. Israel employs a policy of compulsary national service for it's younger people, so it's fair to say a lot of those fighting have little choice over the matter. Stories have been surfacing all week about reserves pulled away from their homes, family and holidays to fight. Since when is it the soldier's fault that a war broke out?

You can help where you're from, what your country does or who your football team is. Are you going to boo German football fans because their country was behind two of the world's largest wars? No - because it's the regimes that are greatly to blame.

You want to keep justifying it, go ahead. Sure, maybe they were Lebanese - very possible - but if they were, I'm sure they'd understand the futility of flag waving at a bunch of Israeli football fans expecting anything other than a reaction of upset. It makes it no better and no worse.

[boogaloo61]

Are you that retarded? That's not the point. How many more times must it be said?

For a start, the Israeli army is largely made up of conscripted reserves and youths. Israel employs a policy of compulsary national service for it's younger people, so it's fair to say a lot of those fighting have little choice over the matter. Stories have been surfacing all week about reserves pulled away from their homes, family and holidays to fight. Since when is it the soldier's fault that a war broke out?

You can help where you're from, what your country does or who your football team is. Are you going to boo German football fans because their country was behind two of the world's largest wars? No - because it's the regimes that are greatly to blame.

You want to keep justifying it, go ahead. Sure, maybe they were Lebanese - very possible - but if they were, I'm sure they'd understand the futility of flag waving at a bunch of Israeli football fans expecting anything other than a reaction of upset. It makes it no better and no worse.

Is it me?

A long standing joke in the forces is one that goes 'If you cant take a joke, you shouldnt have joined. Demonstrated best by the actions of ships company HMS Sheffield during the Falklands conflict, when the sang 'Always look on the bright side of life' on the smoking deck of the striken vessel.

I suggest you take an asprin and have a lie down and 'chill'. Do you keep relationships very long? I'll let you have last word, I'm off for cold rub down with a wet copy of Tuesday nights match programme. KTF.

[Finnegan]

Sorry, boyo, I think some things just aren't to be joked about.

I think TPH said it best, tbh: "Singing about people dying is not funny. It's not big, it's not clever and it should be kept out of football."

[Parsons]

did you know that 80% of Liverpoodlians have had sex in a shower

the other 20% haven't been to prison yet

[Hullfox]

I agree with this in principle, but every rule has its exception...

Harry Roberts is our friend, is our friend, is our friend,

Harry Roberts is our friend, he shoots coppers

Shoots the bastards, with his gun, with his gun

Shoots the bastards, with his gun, Harry Roberts

Why is this an exception Harpic?

The man gunned down three police officers in front of children is this funny to you?

He also beat a man so severely that he died from his injuries - Laugh a minute isn't he?

I take it that the victims were not relatives of yours.

[Daggers]

I didn't notice Harpic's post the first scan through...

...and I have to admit that I'm perplexed too ~ how is that ditty witty Harpic? It's sick, nothing more nothing less.

[Ultra]

Are you that retarded? That's not the point. How many more times must it be said?

For a start, the Israeli army is largely made up of conscripted reserves and youths. Israel employs a policy of compulsary national service for its younger people, so it's fair to say a lot of those fighting have little choice over the matter.

The same could have been said of the SS. It doesn't excuse what they did either

Stories have been surfacing all week about reserves pulled away from their homes, family and holidays to fight. Since when is it the soldier's fault that a war broke out?

It's a government decision - and the government was only elected about six months ago. Call-ups happen fairly frequently in Israel.

[Ultra]

I didn't notice Harpic's post the first scan through...

...and I have to admit that I'm perplexed too ~ how is that ditty witty Harpic? It's sick, nothing more nothing less.

By modern standards the "song" is in poor taste.

But back in the days when there were serious tensions between fans and plod (often for good reason), some on the Kop found amusement in singing it to wind up the bill.

[Finnegan]

We voted in Tony Blair and he went to war, America voted in Bush and he went to war - does that make every American and every Brit responcible for our country's actions and thus worthy of being condemned by every innocent Iraqi civilian going? fock off, of course not.

The same could have been said of the SS. It doesn't excuse what they did either

Er. What? People may have been conscripted into the German army, but not every German citizen was some evil, Nazi officer of the SS! That's a stupid comparrison!

The very, very, very, very bottom line here is: Football fans taunting each other about war / death is not, never will be, cannot be and never has been funny and nor should it ever be acceptable. Why are apparently sane, normal individuals actually arguing against that?