Paul Ramsey Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 It's a variation on moving the kop to the family stand. The family stand is almost empty most of the time and the majority of kids and families seem to sit in the kop anyway. So leave the kop as it is because it's basically the family stand in all but name and at least the stand is reasonably full. Family stand should then become unreserved seating and if you make the tickets £1 less than any other area in the ground and be more tolerant of standing and singing I feel you could attract the supporters there who wish to create an atmosphere. Also close proximity to the away fans would increase the banter/noise. It sounds pretty simple to me and I see no major obstacles that could prevent this happening. I fully expect the club to be totally opposed to it though. Opinions?
Loake Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 From what I have seen there are a lot of kids in the family stand, and not a lot in the kop!
breadandcheese Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Here's my suggestion. Designate an area to be controlled by the fans who sit there. Almost like a lease of the ground by Leicester to the ticket holders who sit there. The club can give them the basic rules i.e. Football league rules, police, health & safety rules, etc, and it can be up to them on the policies in that area e.g. unreserved seating, swearing, age policy in the area, where it's located within the ground. Ideally the fans in the area would have ownership of their little section, so should the police or football league consistently complain at trouble in the area, or breaking of their rules, any punishment meted out by them would be of the area's own making and nothing to do with Leicester City. The only concern the club could have would be to make sure they're making enough on the tickets. The way I see it, is that the club must have a minimum amount they want to make from each ticket sale. Anyone in that area would then be free to come up with ways, or sponsorships to give Leicester money, so that tickets in that area could then be reduced to attract more people into to the ground. I guess what I'm trying to work out is an idea, similar to some of the grounds in Italy, where fans control an area. This area is usually full and the atmos is great. Either way, I think something more radical than a crappy band is required, especially to get the fun back into the stadium. I can't be the only one who looks at Filbert Street with nostalgia and the atmosphere we used to have.
davieG Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Here's my suggestion.Designate an area to be controlled by the fans who sit there. Almost like a lease of the ground by Leicester to the ticket holders who sit there. The club can give them the basic rules i.e. Football league rules, police, health & safety rules, etc, and it can be up to them on the policies in that area e.g. unreserved seating, swearing, age policy in the area, where it's located within the ground. Ideally the fans in the area would have ownership of their little section, so should the police or football league consistently complain at trouble in the area, or breaking of their rules, any punishment meted out by them would be of the area's own making and nothing to do with Leicester City. The only concern the club could have would be to make sure they're making enough on the tickets. The way I see it, is that the club must have a minimum amount they want to make from each ticket sale. Anyone in that area would then be free to come up with ways, or sponsorships to give Leicester money, so that tickets in that area could then be reduced to attract more people into to the ground. I guess what I'm trying to work out is an idea, similar to some of the grounds in Italy, where fans control an area. This area is usually full and the atmos is great. Either way, I think something more radical than a crappy band is required, especially to get the fun back into the stadium. I can't be the only one who looks at Filbert Street with nostalgia and the atmosphere we used to have. Cracking Idea, but a shade too radical for LCFC. The other problem would who run it, I don't believe that either the Supporters Club or the Foxes Trust, who might be considered credible to the club have a great deal of credibility with the typical fan that this might be aimed at. Any new group would find it difficult to obtain credibility from the club.
Ultra Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Cracking Idea, but a shade too radical for LCFC. The other problem would who run it, I don't believe that either the Supporters Club or the Foxes Trust, who might be considered credible to the club have a great deal of credibility with the typical fan that this might be aimed at. Any new group would find it difficult to obtain credibility from the club. Well perhaps FOXESTALK, which has a greater membership than the Foxes Trust and Supporters Club combined, might look at running the scheme Or is THAT a shade too radical for you?
Manwell Pablo Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Well perhaps FOXESTALK, which has a greater membership than the Foxes Trust and Supporters Club combined, might look at running the scheme Or is THAT a shade too radical for you? Thats only in theory in reality we have about 300 active posters at most.
Ultra Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Thats only in theory in reality we have about 300 active posters at most. Still more active members than the other two groups have. Of course, not all are local, but an initiative like this might help us to grow a bit bigger.
breadandcheese Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Whatever discussions about the size of Foxestalk numbers is irrelevant. Foxestalk does not have the capacity nor credibility to run anything like that. It may be a nice fantasy, but that is all it would be. I cannot imagine many people choosing to listen to a website forum. Wake up.
davieG Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Well perhaps FOXESTALK, which has a greater membership than the Foxes Trust and Supporters Club combined, might look at running the scheme Or is THAT a shade too radical for you? Did I say it was too radical for me I'm not sure what you're implying! As for Foxestalk running it, assuming that's a serious suggestion, I'd go back to my point of credibility in the eyes of LCFC, judging by, for example topics like the Cleavage, better bums, sheds etc it might be bit hard to convince them that anyone sane or over the age of 12 posts on here
Ultra Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Did I say it was too radical for me I'm not sure what you're implying! As for Foxestalk running it, assuming that's a serious suggestion, I'd go back to my point of credibility in the eyes of LCFC, judging by, for example topics like the Cleavage, better bums, sheds etc it might be bit hard to convince them that anyone sane or over the age of 12 posts on here I was responding to your digs at the club and the supporters groups. But I'm sure we could go ahead with a scheme if the will was there. The "cleavage" thread was a lapse in taste (many thanks to whoever removed it ), but we have to acknowledge that the readership is very diverse, and therefore may contain a few porn-fixated adolescents who are bored with long school holidays and have too much time (among other things) on their hands. However, as the pages of this and other FOXES forums have shown, the club hierarchy itself has a few credibility issues to address!
Dr The Singh Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 I was responding to your digs at the club and the supporters groups. But I'm sure we could go ahead with a scheme if the will was there. The cleavage thread is a lapse in taste, but we have to acknowledge taht the readership is very diverse, and therefore may contain a few porn-fixated adolescents who are bored with long school holidays and have too much time (among other things) on their hands. However, as the pages of this and other FOXES forums have shown, the club hierarchy itself has a few credibility issues to address!
davieG Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 I was responding to your digs at the club and the supporters groups. But I'm sure we could go ahead with a scheme if the will was there. The "cleavage" thread was a lapse in taste (many thanks to whoever removed it ), but we have to acknowledge that the readership is very diverse, and therefore may contain a few porn-fixated adolescents who are bored with long school holidays and have too much time (among other things) on their hands. However, as the pages of this and other FOXES forums have shown, the club hierarchy itself has a few credibility issues to address! I wasn't having a dig I was saying how I believed they were perceived by some fans, I'm actually a member of the Foxes Trust but I'm aware they get a real bashing on this and othe forums.
Janx Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 I know, why dont we designate one area of the ground as the "shouty, singy bit" and hopefully all the shouty and singy people will congregate there and get the rest of the ground going with lots of cheerful rousing choruses, perhaps some songs dedicated to singular players and some to the team as a whole. Perhaps we could keep it in one END of the ground facing the opposition "fans" and thereby creating a loud, rip roaring aural festival.. What? Its already been what? Its called the WHat? KOP? never heard of it..... I think what it basically boils down to is apathetic singers, we havent been good at it since Filbo... Unless we are away.
Foxes_Trust Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Still more active members than the other two groups have. Of course, not all are local, but an initiative like this might help us to grow a bit bigger. What do you call active? If you mean paid their £10 this year, then we are close to 1,000
Foxes_Trust Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Cracking Idea, but a shade too radical for LCFC. The other problem would who run it, I don't believe that either the Supporters Club or the Foxes Trust, who might be considered credible to the club have a great deal of credibility with the typical fan that this might be aimed at. Any new group would find it difficult to obtain credibility from the club. Can't see the local Safety Authority agreeing to it. given they are one of the least flexible in the country
Paul Ramsey Posted 24 August 2006 Author Posted 24 August 2006 The thing that gets me is none of the 20-30 people I know that used to go every week have any interest in ever going again. Call them disloyal or glory supporters if you wish but it's not the cost or the poor football that is putting them off it's the fact it's a thoroughly boring and unpleasant experience going to the Walkers. I can only see more and more people thinking this way as eveidenced by the continual drop in crowds.
davieG Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 The thing that gets me is none of the 20-30 people I know that used to go every week have any interest in ever going again.Call them disloyal or glory supporters if you wish but it's not the cost or the poor football that is putting them off it's the fact it's a thoroughly boring and unpleasant experience going to the Walkers. I can only see more and more people thinking this way as eveidenced by the continual drop in crowds. Chicken & egg stuff though isn't it, when we first moved in, we were winning games, got promoted with full houses the atmosphere was good. Since that promotion the football played and the players representing the team have been, well shit so the atmosphere has reflected that. There has also been too many false dawns and people now need to see solid evidence that things have improved on the pitch, not just for a couple of games, for some it might take a couple of seasons of sustained success. This means at least competing for a play-off place but more likely a repeat of the Brian Little turn around that also led to a significant improvement in attendance and atmosphere, because believe me during the Pleat era it was like going to a poorly attended funeral every week with just the occasional, sardonic / ironic self deprecating song.
Head Honcho Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 How about promotion a top 3 finish in the prem next season and champions league the year after? Surely that would improve the atmosphere
Paul Ramsey Posted 24 August 2006 Author Posted 24 August 2006 I was a young nipper in the Pleat days and I vaguely remember it still being better than what it is now. It's been shit bar a couple of games since Southampton equalised in the first league game there.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 I was a young nipper in the Pleat days and I vaguely remember it still being better than what it is now. It's been shit bar a couple of games since Southampton equalised in the first league game there. Doh.
City_4_Life Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 How about promotion a top 3 finish in the prem next season and champions league the year after? Surely that would improve the atmosphere Absolutley brilliant idea!! Also maybe we should pick up a couple of F.A. cups on the way, Then the stadium should be really be jumping.
Head Honcho Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 Absolutley brilliant idea!! Also maybe we should pick up a couple of F.A. cups on the way, Then the stadium should be really be jumping. No I was saving the FA Cup for 2015, that way we'll be the first winners at the new Wembley
City_4_Life Posted 24 August 2006 Posted 24 August 2006 No I was saving the FA Cup for 2015, that way we'll be the first winners at the new Wembley lol Good point.
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