MADLEVEIN Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 ----------------Taylor------------------- --Canero----Keown--Heath---Stewart--- --Gillespie-- Williams--nalis--Gudjonsson/morris ----------Scowcroft---dublin----- subs; lardy,dabz,gemmill,connolly the reason behind dublin is he scored on sat from defence after 1 start in ages and connoly aint scored 1 goal in ages, sorry it has to happen. i like connors but he needs a rest and probably needs to be bought on as a sub so he can freshen things up front for us during a match and build his confidence from there.
Ric Flair Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 My team would be: Taylor Canero Keown Stearman Stewart Gillespie Gudjonsson Williams Tiatto Wright Scowcroft Subs: Connolly, Dawson, Nalis, Heath, Morris The team I think Levein will pick is: Taylor Makin Dabizas Keown Stewart Gillespie Gudjonsson Williams Tiatto Scowcroft Connolly Subs: Dublin, Morris, Nalis, Gemmill, Blake The subs bench is a lovely mix of old, young, old, old, old. I think Levein will be looking to get some younger players in, Stearman will get his chance if he continues to perform in the reserves it's inevitable. Look at Levein's history of bringing young players through that's what we need to focus on. Granted he hasn't played any youngsters yet, but if they are good enough they will get their chance. Under Adams it wasn't the case, it didn't matter how well the youngsters did. Dawson and Stearman are ready in my opinion, what they need to do is push on and injure some of our players in training
Ric Flair Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 As for Nalis being better than Williams, I don't think we can compare at present. This season Nalis has played better than Williams, but since Levein has taken over things will be different. Williams looked immense on saturday and he's highly regarded in football, at 22 I can only see great things for him.
shen Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 ----------------Taylor---------------------Canero----Keown--Heath---Stewart--- --Gillespie-- Williams--nalis--Gudjonsson/morris ----------Scowcroft---dublin----- subs; lardy,dabz,gemmill,connolly the reason behind dublin is he scored on sat from defence after 1 start in ages and connoly aint scored 1 goal in ages, sorry it has to happen. i like connors but he needs a rest and probably needs to be bought on as a sub so he can freshen things up front for us during a match and build his confidence from there. 41878[/snapback] So?!... If my memory serves me right, Heath has scored 3 from defense, yet that doesn't mean he should play up front. Dublin's already shown us how useless he is in attack, so why try him again there? With Scowy there would be 0 mobility up there. I agree with dropping Connolly to the bench, but I would MUCH rather see Morris, Wright, Blake or Benji up front than Dion!
Ric Flair Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 ----------------Taylor---------------------Canero----Keown--Heath---Stewart--- --Gillespie-- Williams--nalis--Gudjonsson/morris ----------Scowcroft---dublin----- subs; lardy,dabz,gemmill,connolly the reason behind dublin is he scored on sat from defence after 1 start in ages and connoly aint scored 1 goal in ages, sorry it has to happen. i like connors but he needs a rest and probably needs to be bought on as a sub so he can freshen things up front for us during a match and build his confidence from there. 41878[/snapback] So?!... If my memory serves me right, Heath has scored 3 from defense, yet that doesn't mean he should play up front. Dublin's already shown us how useless he is in attack, so why try him again there? With Scowy there would be 0 mobility up there. I agree with dropping Connolly to the bench, but I would MUCH rather see Morris, Wright, Blake or Benji up front than Dion! 41930[/snapback] Well said, totally agree with you.
Oli Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 Taylor Canero/Keown/Dabizas/Stewart Gillespie/Williams/Joey/Tiatto Morris/Scowy
MADLEVEIN Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 ----------------Taylor---------------------Canero----Keown--Heath---Stewart--- --Gillespie-- Williams--nalis--Gudjonsson/morris ----------Scowcroft---dublin----- subs; lardy,dabz,gemmill,connolly the reason behind dublin is he scored on sat from defence after 1 start in ages and connoly aint scored 1 goal in ages, sorry it has to happen. i like connors but he needs a rest and probably needs to be bought on as a sub so he can freshen things up front for us during a match and build his confidence from there. 41878[/snapback] So?!... If my memory serves me right, Heath has scored 3 from defense, yet that doesn't mean he should play up front. Dublin's already shown us how useless he is in attack, so why try him again there? With Scowy there would be 0 mobility up there. I agree with dropping Connolly to the bench, but I would MUCH rather see Morris, Wright, Blake or Benji up front than Dion! 41930[/snapback] thats just my opinion, like everybody's else, but dublin as levein said after the plymouth match that he is a striker. heath has done well in the goals department but he's never played as a striker, worked for steve walsh though.
Mark Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 ----------------Taylor---------------------Canero----Keown--Heath---Stewart--- --Gillespie-- Williams--nalis--Gudjonsson/morris ----------Scowcroft---dublin----- subs; lardy,dabz,gemmill,connolly Sorry but that's going too far...
MADLEVEIN Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 ----------------Taylor---------------------Canero----Keown--Heath---Stewart--- --Gillespie-- Williams--nalis--Gudjonsson/morris ----------Scowcroft---dublin----- subs; lardy,dabz,gemmill,connolly Sorry but that's going too far... 42058[/snapback] im sure you picking an unproven dawson in centre midfield and tommy wright up front away from home is the answer then ? like i said everyone has there own opinions and dublin has upset a'lot of people by saying what he did . but i didnt hear anyone complaining after he scored the winner on saturday.
Mark Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 Unproven is better than Dublin who is proven he is nothing short of shocking in the striker role.
MADLEVEIN Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 Unproven is better than Dublin who is proven he is nothing short of shocking in the striker role. 42068[/snapback] my original point was i think dublin should replace connolly who hasnt been banging the goals in just lately correct me if im wrong but hasnt the shocking dublin scored more goals than connors just lately? i dont care who he picks, i'll support them while they have a blue shirt on crap or not.
shen Posted 1 December 2004 Posted 1 December 2004 Unproven is better than Dublin who is proven he is nothing short of shocking in the striker role. 42068[/snapback] my original point was i think dublin should replace connolly who hasnt been banging the goals in just lately correct me if im wrong but hasnt the shocking dublin scored more goals than connors just lately? i dont care who he picks, i'll support them while they have a blue shirt on crap or not. 42072[/snapback] fair enough but why do you want to move him up front instead of keeping him at the back then? As you pointed out, that's where he scored from
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2004 Posted 2 December 2004 It's all opinions at the end of the day. What MADLEVEIN is saying is in theory correct as Dublin has scored more goals than Connolly this season, but everyone knows football isn't as straight forward as that. Dublin has been highly ineffective this season and that's being kind to him, I know Connolly has been abit disappointing aswell but having two large oafs upfront just won't work. That would encourage our team to hoof the ball up to them, especially as we are playing away from home and that isn't the answer. Nathan Blake is a better option than Dublin and that's saying soemthing, atleast Blake appears to be more mobile recently even though he's still putting in below par performances. A few years ago, i'd choose an experienced player of an in-experienced player but not anymore, i'd choose the player who deserves the shirt more and who on current form is playing better. Reserve football is alot different to first team football, but these young players like Dawson, Stearman and Wright can only do what's asked of them and as they are only being asked to play for the reserves nobody really knows whether they will play better than Dublin, Gemmill, Blake, etc in the first team. One thing I will say though is if Levein can make an opinion on Dublin, Gemmill and Blake when he's seen them in the reserve team and then put them in the first team then i'm sure he can do the same for the in-experienced players. Leeds team has a fair few kids in anyway so putting one or two in our team against them won't be any less effective than it would if we had that cowboy Dublin in there.
Ricey Posted 2 December 2004 Posted 2 December 2004 --------------Taylor Canero--Keown--Dabizas--Stewart Gillespie--Gudjonsson--Nalis--Tiatto ---------Connolly--Scowcroft SUBS: Elliott, Williams, Morris, Dublin, Makin
shen Posted 2 December 2004 Posted 2 December 2004 It's all opinions at the end of the day. What MADLEVEIN is saying is in theory correct as Dublin has scored more goals than Connolly this season, but everyone knows football isn't as straight forward as that. Dublin has been highly ineffective this season and that's being kind to him, I know Connolly has been abit disappointing aswell but having two large oafs upfront just won't work. That would encourage our team to hoof the ball up to them, especially as we are playing away from home and that isn't the answer. Nathan Blake is a better option than Dublin and that's saying soemthing, atleast Blake appears to be more mobile recently even though he's still putting in below par performances.A few years ago, i'd choose an experienced player of an in-experienced player but not anymore, i'd choose the player who deserves the shirt more and who on current form is playing better. Reserve football is alot different to first team football, but these young players like Dawson, Stearman and Wright can only do what's asked of them and as they are only being asked to play for the reserves nobody really knows whether they will play better than Dublin, Gemmill, Blake, etc in the first team. One thing I will say though is if Levein can make an opinion on Dublin, Gemmill and Blake when he's seen them in the reserve team and then put them in the first team then i'm sure he can do the same for the in-experienced players. Leeds team has a fair few kids in anyway so putting one or two in our team against them won't be any less effective than it would if we had that cowboy Dublin in there. 42252[/snapback] Come to think of it, it is arguably equally tough opposition that the reserves meet compared to the first team. The reserves are still in the Premier League and thus meet a lot of excellent youngsters and Premier League fringe players, whereas the first team plays against Championship opposition. Of course the pressure is higher in League games, but the quality must be around the same level. So shouldn't the reserves games provide a pretty good idea of how good they actually are? I haven't actually witnessed a reserve game, but I can imagine the combativity isn't as intense,and that the creative freedom is a lot higher than in first team games...
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2004 Posted 2 December 2004 It's all opinions at the end of the day. What MADLEVEIN is saying is in theory correct as Dublin has scored more goals than Connolly this season, but everyone knows football isn't as straight forward as that. Dublin has been highly ineffective this season and that's being kind to him, I know Connolly has been abit disappointing aswell but having two large oafs upfront just won't work. That would encourage our team to hoof the ball up to them, especially as we are playing away from home and that isn't the answer. Nathan Blake is a better option than Dublin and that's saying soemthing, atleast Blake appears to be more mobile recently even though he's still putting in below par performances.A few years ago, i'd choose an experienced player of an in-experienced player but not anymore, i'd choose the player who deserves the shirt more and who on current form is playing better. Reserve football is alot different to first team football, but these young players like Dawson, Stearman and Wright can only do what's asked of them and as they are only being asked to play for the reserves nobody really knows whether they will play better than Dublin, Gemmill, Blake, etc in the first team. One thing I will say though is if Levein can make an opinion on Dublin, Gemmill and Blake when he's seen them in the reserve team and then put them in the first team then i'm sure he can do the same for the in-experienced players. Leeds team has a fair few kids in anyway so putting one or two in our team against them won't be any less effective than it would if we had that cowboy Dublin in there. 42252[/snapback] Come to think of it, it is arguably equally tough opposition that the reserves meet compared to the first team. The reserves are still in the Premier League and thus meet a lot of excellent youngsters and Premier League fringe players, whereas the first team plays against Championship opposition. Of course the pressure is higher in League games, but the quality must be around the same level. So shouldn't the reserves games provide a pretty good idea of how good they actually are? I haven't actually witnessed a reserve game, but I can imagine the combativity isn't as intense,and that the creative freedom is a lot higher than in first team games... 42345[/snapback] Individual performances are alot more important in reserve football, it's not about the results so the football is often different to first team stuff. It is a great indication of how a player is currently doing and whether they are showing signs of being able to play in the first team, but it's always been said that just because someone is playing well for the reserves they aren't good enough for the first team. It's a lazy statement really as a player playing in the reserves can only do so much so if they play well in the reserves what more can you ask of them if that's all their being asked to do?!
Little Nicky Posted 2 December 2004 Posted 2 December 2004 -------------------Taylor----------------- Makin-------Keown--Heath-----Stewart Gillespie---Williams--Nalis------Tiatto ----------Scowcroft---Connolly--------- Subs: Pressman, Gudjonsson, Gemmill, Blake, Dublin 41864[/snapback] Revised team then with the injuries included.... -------------------Taylor----------------- Makin-------Dabizas --Heath-----Stewart Gillespie---Williams---Gudjonsson---Nalis ----------Scowcroft---Connolly--------- Subs: Pressman, Morris, Gemmill, Blake, Dublin
Oli Posted 2 December 2004 Posted 2 December 2004 My team now that Keown and Tiatto are out. Taylor Canero/Heath/Dabizas/Stewart Gillespie/Williams/Joey/Morris Connolly/Scowy But I would rather it be: Taylor Canero/Stearman/Dabizas/Stewart Gillespie/Dawson/Williams/Morris Wright/Scowy
Scow Posted 2 December 2004 Author Posted 2 December 2004 I don't think Levein rates Heath, so I reckon Dublin will continue with Dabizas. Apart from that, I agree with True Blue Matt's team.
Ash Posted 3 December 2004 Posted 3 December 2004 I can confirm Stearman isn't in the squad , Trust !
Cobbo Posted 3 December 2004 Posted 3 December 2004 I can confirm Stearman isn't in the squad , Trust ! 42740[/snapback] Go on.....m-b said something?
Cobbo Posted 3 December 2004 Posted 3 December 2004 No, I spoke to him last night 42759[/snapback] Oh my, is he a skinny so and so? How tall is he?
Ash Posted 3 December 2004 Posted 3 December 2004 He is tall yes , but not that skinny ! he's a sound chap
Mark Posted 3 December 2004 Posted 3 December 2004 I can confirm Stearman isn't in the squad , Trust ! 42740[/snapback] Isn't it great to see these predictable unambitous goings on year after year
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