panarama

[stez]

i missed the ****er because i forgot it was on but it seems large sam allerdyce could be in a spot of bother; who watched it? what was the general gist?

[Fleckney Fox]

well it said that sam had taken bungs from at least 3 agents and also his son Craig was a agent who dealt with bungs helping bolton signing 3 players against FA rules

[Fez of Mahrez]

Chelsea should be in a load of shit after that. Disgusting. (Arnesen effectively tapping up a touted 15-year-old England youth international).

[hairy]

Makes you smile when Big Sam has held the moral high ground on other issues in football.

[davieG]

Makes you smile when Big Sam has held the moral high ground on other issues in football.

Including our Admin

I guess we know now why he didn't get much of a sniff at the England job.

[Wycombe Fox]

I got the impression that certain managers will sign any old player just because there's the possibilty of a bung in it for themselves.

Imagine the scenario;

Dodgy Manager thinks to himself: Oh bugger, the wife's on my back to buy her a brand new Ferrari so I could do with a sudden cash injection.

Dodgy Manager picks up phone: Hello Dodgy Agent, have you got a player that I could buy, give you your over-inflated fee and take myself a cash bung?

Dodgy Agent: Yes Dodgy Manager , I've got a defender who is unhappy at the moment. Give me £150k and I'll give you £50k cash. Do you think this guy will improve the squad?

Dodgy Manager : Who cares whether he can improve it as long as I get my bung - can you deposit the cash in my Swiss bank account within 24 hours?

Dodgy Agent: Upon contract signing, definitely.

Dodgy Manager phones Chairman: Hello Chairman. The squad needs strengthening and I've got just the bloke - can you authorise the deal? You can? Brilliant!!

Sorted! Deal goes through and your club is 'strengthened' by the addition of a player bought by a dodgy manager only to enlarge his own bank balance.

So next time you're watching in a stadium or sat at home and you can't fathom out why your club has signed a certain player, maybe it's because the manager's wife wanted a brand new Ferrari!!

[The People's Hero]

Makes you smile when Big Sam has held the moral high ground on other issues in football.

Big Sam is a sh it.

[davieG]

I bet the FA and the Premier League are fighting each other to find the biggest carpet and brush.

From the BBC

FA probes BBC 'bung' allegations

The Football Association says it will investigate "any possible breach of the rules" over allegations regarding the payment of bungs within the game.

Bolton boss Sam Allardyce is at the centre of the allegations of bungs - illegal payments - uncovered by a BBC Panorama undercover film.

The film shows two agents claiming they paid bungs to Allardyce, who denies ever asking for or taking a bung.

The FA has asked for any evidence uncovered by the Panorama programme.

Bolton Wanderers Football Club has also said it may request further information from the BBC.

"We are reviewing the programme carefully. We will make further comment in due course," said a club statement.

An FA spokesman said: "We have watched the programme with great interest and have asked the BBC if they will share the findings from their investigation with us.

"If we have evidence of possible breaches of rules and regulations we will of course investigate that."

Agent Teni Yerima claims he bribed Allardyce in the past. Another agent, Peter Harrison, describes offering to pay the Bolton manager's son Craig, who Panorama claim received secret payments from agents during three transfer deals.

Former England managerial candidate Allardyce also told the BBC he would not condone any breaches of FA rules - whatever personal affection he has for his son.

Craig Allardyce said he was exaggerating his own importance to the undercover reporter in order to attract opportunities.

He denied any wrongdoing in his Bolton deals or in his relationship with the club.

Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp is secretly filmed discussing an illegal approach to buy the Blackburn defender Andy Todd.

Redknapp denies his conversation about Todd with agent Peter Harrison amounted to "tapping up".

Redknapp's assistant at Portsmouth at the time of the filming, Kevin Bond, is secretly recorded admitting he would consider discussing receiving payments from a proposed new agency involving Peter Harrison. Mr Bond also says he will discuss it with his then boss Harry Redknapp.

Redknapp told the BBC that he has never taken a bung and had given Kevin Bond no reason to think otherwise.

When Bond was told of the filming he said that he is not interested in receiving bungs and that no one he has ever worked with has taken a bung.

The documentary also shows Chelsea's director of youth football, Frank Arnesen, secretly filmed making a illegal approach for or "tapping up" Middlesbrough's England youth star 15-year-old Nathan Porritt.

Chelsea have denied the filmed meetings broke any industry rules.

The Premiership champions were given a suspended three-point deduction by the Premier League when they were found guilty of illegally approaching Arsenal's Ashley Cole, who has since joined Chelsea.

But the Press Association has reported that Panorama's claims will not lead to that points deduction being triggered.

Chelsea are also currently the subject of a joint investigation by the Premier League and Football Association over claims by Leeds of illegal approaches for three academy players last season.

The Press Association claims the suspended sentence refers to 'contracted players', and not academy players.

Porritt was also the subject of filmed discussions between Harrison and representatives of Liverpool FC.

Panorama claim 18 past and present Premiership managers had been named as having taken illegal payments.

Sports minister Richard Caborn called on the programme to hand its evidence to the Premier League's inquiry, headed by Lord Stevens, which is due to announce its findings into illegal payments in football on 2 October.

"The integrity of sport needs to be upheld and there are proper rules for managers and agents. These allegations damage the integrity of football and need to be looked at properly.

"The programme alleged they had names of 18 managers who had received illegal payments, and I think they should give all their findings over to the Lord Stevens inquiry.

"This reinforces what I have been trying to do to bring in greater regulation into football through the European Football Review."

And a Premier League statement backed Caborn's view.

That statement said: "The Premier League have asked for the BBC to make their evidence available to the Stevens inquiry.

"The Premier League takes all allegations of this nature seriously, which is why we launched an inquiry into alleged irregular payments in transfers back in January of this year.

"As we have made clear any evidence from any source is welcomed. Indeed when the BBC initially approached us regarding Panorama's findings we requested they be submitted to Lord Stevens for investigation.

"We hope now the BBC has had the opportunity to broadcast that their documentary evidence and filming will be made available to Lord Stevens and his team.

"There are allegations concerning other potential breaches of industry rules in the programme that fall outside the terms of reference of Lord Stevens' inquiry.

"Again we request the BBC pass on their evidence in order that the FA and ourselves can examine all aspects of these allegations in order to determine the most appropriate course of action that each body should take."

Source

[Daggers]

i missed the ****er because i forgot it was on but it seems large sam allerdyce could be in a spot of bother; who watched it? what was the general gist?

I reckoned the whole program was a pile of tosh. It didn't get any manager having his grubby mitts on the cash. None. A full year's investigating and yet the program weas littered with bleeps and fuzzy bits whenever a club or person was named.

I'm as pissed off about the BBC dropping the ball on this as I am about the corrupt bastards stealing OUR money from the game.

MY licence fee, MY Sky Sports subscription and MY bloody season ticket go to support shanigans such as this. I want the bastards to stop lining their pockets...and the thing that makes me most angry is I don't think it will ever stop

[davieG]

I reckoned the whole program was a pile of tosh. It didn't get any manager having his grubby mitts on the cash. None. A full year's investigating and yet the program weas littered with bleeps and fuzzy bits whenever a club or person was named.

I'm as pissed off about the BBC dropping the ball on this as I am about the corrupt bastards stealing OUR money from the game.

MY licence fee, MY Sky Sports subscription and MY bloody season ticket go to support shanigans such as this. I want the bastards to stop lining their pockets...and the thing that makes me most angry is I don't think it will ever stop

Agree

[Fez of Mahrez]

Thirded.

Dodgy Agent #1: "Yeah, Sam would take a bung"

Dodgy Agent #2: "Yeah, Sam would take a bung"

Dodgy Agent #3: "Yeah, Sam would take a bung"

Sam: "No I wouldn't"

Premier League: "He says he wouldn't"

End of investigation.

[The People's Hero]

Post modernism. That's the problem.

*shakes head*

Sometimes I worry I know too much. I see it all too clearly.

[Fez of Mahrez]

The Chelsea/Arnesen segment should worry any Leicester fan who thinks we have an excellent crop of youngsters at the moment. Especially players like Chambers, Magunda or Mattock.

[Durnerz]

Gartsides on the board at the FA isnt he? Funny how just the FA are investigating Big Sam, I wouldn't expect anything to come out of this. Interesting programme though, expected nothing less from Chelsea, they've been caught red handed once already however Liverpool surprised me a bit. I personally didn't think there was anything in the Harry Redknapp scenario, the agent basically broke the rules but Harry never agreed to anything that was offered, the only loser out of all this I think will possibly be Craig Allardyce for being involved in deals when hes banned from doing it at Bolton.

[davieG]

Big Cap't Sam source

"Obviously I'm denyin' all allegations that have been alleged against me," said Allardyce. "T' matter's in t' lawyers' hands and will be resolved by due process. "I have instructed me lawyers t' take t' appropriate action." "

[Daggers]

The Chelsea/Arnesen segment should worry any Leicester fan who thinks we have an excellent crop of youngsters at the moment. Especially players like Chambers, Magunda or Mattock.

I said as much last month when people [Thracian ] were praising the youth team.

If the hoo-haa between Chelsea and Man Utd last season was anything to go by, no team can do anything about it because the Premiership, The FA and EUFA don't give a flying toss.

The biggest rule they stick by is Don't get caught

[davieG]

They're all trying to wriggly out of it:

The agent at the centre of the bungs scandal has denied ever giving illegal payments to any managers.

Peter Harrison is planning to sue the BBC after he was accused of giving bungs in transfers.

Harrison was secretly filmed talking about paying managers to help transfers go through, with Bolton boss Sam Allardyce also finding himself caught up in the investigation.

Harrison has moved to defend himself against the accusations and is ready to take legal action against the programme makers.

"I've never given bungs," Harrison told the Daily Express. "I've not given Sam Allardyce a bung. I will sue the BBC.

"I haven't heard from The Football Association. I'll carry on as an agent and shall do what The FA asks of me."

Allardyce's son Craig has also been accused of wrongdoing in the programme after it was alleged he was paid by Harrison for his part in a couple of transfer deals.

Harrison has not denied the accusations and insists paying other agents involved in deals is common practice in the game.

"I am not going to deny it," added Harrison.

"But Craig is a Fifa agent and in some deals there can be as many as four or five agents, so why shouldn't I pay Craig?"

Meanwhile, top agent Jon Holmes has added to the debate regarding corruption in the game by claiming a current Premiership manager wanted a bung off him in the past.

Holmes, who is the chief executive of one of the sport's leading agencies, SFX, has revealed three managers have asked him for illegal payments in the past.

"In my career, three managers, one of them currently operating in The Premiership, have intimated to me that they would like a kickback," Holmes told The Sun.

"One for example, suggested that he could send a player my way but asked if he would 'benefit' from doing so.

"Was that asking for a bung? I thought so and walked away from the situation as I did from the others."