Ultra Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 I don't think the ground's too big at all. We regularly filled it while we were in the Premiership, and would do it again. If by some miracle we found another MON who could deliver us sustained success, we'd be looking to extend the stadium and perhaps give it some extra character. And the prospect of bigger crowds would also attract better quality players to our club.
Manwell Pablo Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 We got 31,000 average gate because it was our first season back in the prem. That always happens when teams get promoted. We are down to average gate of 19,0000, whats happend to the 10,000 missing ones. I guess there be back if we played a play off final or a cup final. I feel they built the staduim too big, made it so dull and like other stadums. The kop should have had its own stand and be too tier and the away fans behind one goal. about 26,000 would have been fine, not too big and not too small. I dunno, Boro still struggle with Attendances. The Wednesday still get a fairly good gate.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 26,000 is only 4,000 up on Filbo. Hardly worth moving in terms of potential income. That post reflects a complete lack of ambition.
multipack Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 26,000 is only 4,000 up on Filbo. Hardly worth moving in terms of potential income. That post reflects a complete lack of ambition. Does not show lack of ambition at all!!! it shows that i am relistic about the size of leicesters support. We have like most teams a good core suppport which are fans that turn up to most games whether we are in the prem or not and will come when we sruggle on lower divisions which is about 14,000. we do not have a 32,000 plus support. Only in the big games.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 Does not show lack of ambition at all!!! it shows that i am relistic about the size of leicesters support. We have like most teams a good core suppport which are fans that turn up to most games whether we are in the prem or not and will come when we sruggle on lower divisions which is about 14,000. we do not have a 32,000 plus support. Only in the big games. So what's the point of forfeiting 6,000 seats?
multipack Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 So what's the point of forfeiting 6,000 seats? what!!! plesae explain? :-)
Fez of Mahrez Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 what!!! plesae explain? :-) What is the purpose of building a 26,000 seater stadium instead of a 32,000 seater stadium? Going by your plan it would cost even more so it can't be financial.
Floating Fox Posted 2 October 2006 Posted 2 October 2006 Does not show lack of ambition at all!!! it shows that i am relistic about the size of leicesters support. We have like most teams a good core suppport which are fans that turn up to most games whether we are in the prem or not and will come when we sruggle on lower divisions which is about 14,000. we do not have a 32,000 plus support. Only in the big games. I agree with what you have said about the Walkers looking dull etc but it is ( as much as I hate it) one of the only good things about the club in terms of busniess. We could get support of 40'000-50'000( for big gmaes obviously). If you go to places like kettering, peterborough, grantham, corby, rugby and Northampton there is huge support for us there espcially in kettering. That is not including the thousands of fans we can attract normally and the many towns across this great county. And that doesnt take into account the chance we have of attracting all the chineese students from loughborough to the club
stez Posted 4 October 2006 Posted 4 October 2006 We got 31,000 average gate because it was our first season back in the prem. That always happens when teams get promoted. We are down to average gate of 19,0000, whats happend to the 10,000 missing ones. I guess there be back if we played a play off final or a cup final. I feel they built the staduim too big, made it so dull and like other stadums. The kop should have had its own stand and be too tier and the away fans behind one goal. about 26,000 would have been fine, not too big and not too small. ok, mr hindsight2 you go back in time and with your wealth of knowledge tell them where they're going wrong. i'm sure you told them at the time. filbo was a dump the carling stand was a mistake. however i did like walking to the ground and not knowing there was a ground there until you got round to the kop
multipack Posted 4 October 2006 Posted 4 October 2006 ok, mr hindsight2 you go back in time and with your wealth of knowledge tell them where they're going wrong. i'm sure you told them at the time. filbo was a dump the carling stand was a mistake. however i did like walking to the ground and not knowing there was a ground there until you got round to the kop it might have been a dump but it was a great day out. atmosphere, u could have banter with the away fans far more easier. It was home and they should have stayed, thats what i think. Also, the board went for the cheaper option in the new stadiam design instead of building a unique desighn suited to leicester. A new replica of filbo would have been good.
davieG Posted 4 October 2006 Posted 4 October 2006 it might have been a dump but it was a great day out. atmosphere, u could have banter with the away fans far more easier. It was home and they should have stayed, thats what i think. Also, the board went for the cheaper option in the new stadiam design instead of building a unique desighn suited to leicester. A new replica of filbo would have been good. We couldn't stay because we couldn't get planning permission and some people didn't want to sell their house. A better quality unique standium would have been nice but we would now have any even bigger debt than we have.
Guest Posted 4 October 2006 Posted 4 October 2006 It's alright with the ifs and buts of attendances in thhe Premiership, but our average attendance in this league is higher than when we were pushing for promotion whilst at Filbo, so someone somewhere is still going to be feeling smug.
vanfox12 Posted 4 October 2006 Posted 4 October 2006 Someone might explain it one of these days!. Didn't Taylor want Carl Cort? but he decided to go to Newcastle who offered £6m for him. Taylor panicked annd bought Akinbiyi on the basis of scoring about 15 or 16 goals in the first division. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Cort would have been just as shit. Its not as if he's scored sack loads of goals either.
vanfox12 Posted 4 October 2006 Posted 4 October 2006 We couldn't stay because we couldn't get planning permission and some people didn't want to sell their house. A better quality unique standium would have been nice but we would now have any even bigger debt than we have. Before health and safety rules kicked in the 70's football grounds like Filbert St could take crowds of over 40,000 and even up till the early 80's the capacity was nearer 30,000 with 29,000 at the Burnley game in 1983. If terracing was reintroduced in set areas of the ground such as the kop the capacity could easily increase to 40,000 without building an extra tier on the ground provided the necessary work was done to strengthen the terracing and girders. Filbert St has gone and we've got to move on but if we can find ways to improve the general appearance of the ground such as decorating the concourses and toilets in the club colours and generating a better atmosphere then maybe we can rekindle some of the good times we had at Filbert St.
Ultra Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Before health and safety rules kicked in the 70's football grounds like Filbert St could take crowds of over 40,000 and even up till the early 80's the capacity was nearer 30,000 with 29,000 at the Burnley game in 1983. If terracing was reintroduced in set areas of the ground such as the kop the capacity could easily increase to 40,000 without building an extra tier on the ground provided the necessary work was done to strengthen the terracing and girders. Filbert St has gone and we've got to move on but if we can find ways to improve the general appearance of the ground such as decorating the concourses and toilets in the club colours and generating a better atmosphere then maybe we can rekindle some of the good times we had at Filbert St. The only way we'll have terracing back is if we go down. And that's a price that nobody, surely, wants to pay.
vanfox12 Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 The only way we'll have terracing back is if we go down. And that's a price that nobody, surely, wants to pay. True but even if we go down we will still have seating and even more empty seats and even less atmosphere. In a few years time terracing may make a come back if enough fans want it but that will only happen if the government has a change of heart but i can't see that happening under this government or the Tories if they get back in (Perish the thought if the electorate are stupid enough).
Swedging Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 True but even if we go down we will still have seating and even more empty seats and even less atmosphere. In a few years time terracing may make a come back if enough fans want I doubt it's that. If someone can come up with an idea for access in and out of standing areas that completely eliminatates the potential risk of crushing, and they're totally away from the away support, it may be a runner.
Ultra Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Standing in the higher leagues will not be brought back, at least not for another decade. Rightly or wrongly, too many people associate terraces with what happened at Hillsborough. It will take a while yet for those views to change, whichever government is in power.
Sooper Steve's shin Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 Filbert St's capacity was around 22K - in the MON days, this was nowhere near enough. I believe that if we'd been able to get a new ground sooner (remember Bede Island and the projects before it) we'd have had a significantly better chance of keeping MON. He mentioned the constraints of Filbo so many times, like his famous quote about bringing potential new signings out of the Carling Stand backwards so they didn't see the East Stand. At the time, building the Carling Stand seemed the right thing - the old Members Stand was pretty much past it and the extra space/facilities were needed. At the time we committed to the Walkers Stadium, it was the right thing to do. I think some people even thought 3K wasn't ambitious enough. From memory we would average around 18K in a good season at Filbo - even in the dire straits we're in today, we're (just about) beating that. If we were up near the play-offs, I think we'd average around 25K and closer to 30K in the Prem. For all our money problems, the extra numbers we're getting in now must be making a difference. Who would have been happy AT THE TIME if we'd scrapped the idea of moving and put, say, another £10million into the squad? Or if we'd moved from 22K Filbert Street to a 26K stadium?
Guest Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 I think people are overlooking the fact that even if we went down, we could not have a return to terracing. The WS was built at the "wrong gradient", therefore introducing terracing would cost money we clearly don't have. So it is not going to happen.
Fox in a Box Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 I think people are overlooking the fact that even if we went down, we could not have a return to terracing. The WS was built at the "wrong gradient", therefore introducing terracing would cost money we clearly don't have. So it is not going to happen. Correct! hello Leesoh, someone with brains ahhh!
Dr The Singh Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 Correct! hello Leesoh, someone with brians ahhh! Leesoh's dating more then 1 Brian!!!!
Thracian Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 True but even if we go down we will still have seating and even more empty seats and even less atmosphere. In a few years time terracing may make a come back if enough fans want it but that will only happen if the government has a change of heart but i can't see that happening under this government or the Tories if they get back in (Perish the thought if the electorate are stupid enough). They're certainly that - you've only got to look at who they put in last time - or at least who the Scots and Welsh put in!!!.
Janx Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 Leesoh's dating more then 1 Brian!!!! brilliant... thats why my dad's nickname is Brains... cos people write his name wrong all the time!!
Dr The Singh Posted 6 October 2006 Posted 6 October 2006 brilliant... thats why my dad's nickname is Brains... cos people write his name wrong all the time!! Is he dating Leesoh aswell!!!
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