The People's Hero Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Paddy McCarthy/Elvis Hammond/Chris O Grady.
Cobbo Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Paddy McCarthy/Elvis Hammond/Chris O Grady. Don't knock the COG!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 O'Grady by a country mile. So out of his depth it's embarrassing.
Cobbo Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 O'Grady by a country mile. So out of his depth it's embarrassing. See above.
dannyallen1992 Posted 7 January 2007 Author Posted 7 January 2007 prob O Grady he isnt good enough for this league loan him out to a team in the league below
The People's Hero Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 O'Grady by a country mile. So out of his depth it's embarrassing. [sarcasm] Now now, toe the line Fez, he came through our academy therefore he must be amazing. [/sarcasm]
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 See above. Yeah, I did. He makes me cringe.
Cobbo Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Poor lad. As if a receding hair line at 21 wasn't bad enough
The People's Hero Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Poor lad. As if a receding hair line at 21 wasn't bad enough Why poor lad? He's doing what he's probably always wanted to do and is being paid well (certainly compared to us) to do it. I'm sure when he bin him, he'll continue to make a career out of football. I certainly feel no sympathy towards him... no animosity either.. afterall, he doesn't pick the team etc.
Cobbo Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Why poor lad? He's doing what he's probably always wanted to do and is being paid well (certainly compared to us) to do it. I'm sure when he bin him, he'll continue to make a career out of football. I certainly feel no sympathy towards him... no animosity either.. afterall, he doesn't pick the team etc. Yes Jim I wasn't being entirely serious buddy Although I don't think he is as bad as a lot of others seem to, although I admit he will not be another Heskey, or even Phil Gee but bless him he's going bald.
The People's Hero Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Yes Jim I wasn't being entirely serious buddy Although I don't think he is as bad as a lot of others seem to, although I admit he will not be another Heskey, or even Phil Gee but bless him he's going bald. Yeah, he's honest enough and hardworking. I do will him to do well... he just is out of his depth at this level. Maybe with another year or so in league one or two he'll come on a bit more. Can't see him making it here though. I'd imagine the writing might be on the wall for him if Mandaric does back the manager (RK or not) with a substantial transfer budget. I just hope Hammond suffers the same fate.
Cobbo Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Yeah, he's honest enough and hardworking. I do will him to do well... he just is out of his depth at this level. Maybe with another year or so in league one or two he'll come on a bit more. Can't see him making it here though. I'd imagine the writing might be on the wall for him if Mandaric does back the manager (RK or not) with a substantial transfer budget. I just hope Hammond suffers the same fate. Although although although, my previous post reads as if it was written by an indecisive weak bladdered honkey tonk from Tennessee.
Thracian Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 We have far too many bad players and I hope we can off load the whole lot in January or at least the major proportion of them. It would be nice to hope we don't make so many silly mistakes again - and perhaps learn to be more rational and far-seeing in who we sign. But that's probably expecting too much. For instance Hammond. As you know I think the guy's got some qualities but, truthfully, we should never have signed him. Why? Because there was no evidence for doing so. He wasn't particularly young but had made no impact as a striker at all. Even worse, we didn't ever need to pay a fee for him so what was the point? By contrast, someone like Dodds might still fail but the evidence is there, that at every level he's played so far, he has not only scored goals but done so at a steady pace. We should never sign a striker who can present no evidence of being a goalscorer. That's just an example and there are lots more. Attacking need a record of scoring and creating goals, the same goes for wingers and, with defenders, it's all about goals conceded and what they too can add in going forward. Statistics aren't a final answer but they are a guide if you study them closely enough. Hunches are for gamblers and most gamblers lose. In the end every signing is a risk and every manager has to back his judgement but first they should narrow the odds and make sure there are real reasons for taking someone on, reasons that stand up to thorough scrutiny.
Cobbo Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 We have far too many bad players and I hope we can off load the whole lot in January or at least the major proportion of them. It would be nice to hope we don't make so many silly mistakes again - and perhaps learn to be more rational and far-seeing in who we sign. But that's probably expecting too much. For instance Hammond. As you know I think the guy's got some qualities but, truthfully, we should never have signed him. Why? Because there was no evidence for doing so. He wasn't particularly young but had made no impact as a striker at all. Even worse, we didn't ever need to pay a fee for him so what was the point? By contrast, someone like Dodds might still fail but the evidence is there, that at every level he's played so far, he has not only scored goals but done so at a steady pace. We should never sign a striker who can present no evidence of being a goalscorer. That's just an example and there are lots more. Attacking need a record of scoring and creating goals, the same goes for wingers and, with defenders, it's all about goals conceded and what they too can add in going forward. Statistics aren't a final answer but they are a guide if you study them closely enough. Hunches are for gamblers and most gamblers lose. In the end every signing is a risk and every manager has to back his judgement but first they should narrow the odds and make sure there are real reasons for taking someone on, reasons that stand up to thorough scrutiny. All we wanted was a name
Flynny Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Are you actually saying Hammond is worst or not? I suspect not because he really isn't THAT bad.
Kilworthfox Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Are yuo actually saying Hammond is worst or not? I suspect not because he really isn't THAT bad. Hammond
milans wallet Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 elvis hammond isn't very good, as footballing brains go his is one of the smallest handed out, fast legs, slow brain, such a shame
DB11 Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 prob O Grady he isnt good enough for this league loan him out to a team in the league below Nah you're so wrong, he is a good target man Our worst player would probably be................ Rab Douglas
Kilworthfox Posted 7 January 2007 Posted 7 January 2007 Worst player has to be Andy Johnson surely? Andy Johnson vs Sheff Wed away subbed and Good shout but I hate Hammond with a passion!
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