Steven Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 I got a book for Christmas, it's a load of self-discovery philosophical quizzes. One of the tests was based more around morality. There were questions that were designed to test whether or not your morals changed based upon both familial and geographical proximity. Unsurprisingly, I judge everyone the same. Hopefully, I'll be a law lord yet! For the record, I have no sympathy for the two guys killed, but I do actually feel for the families. The selfish way in which these two guys behaved makes my blood boil. They acted with no thought or consideration for those who love them. It's this reasoning that makes me such a good girl! I just didn't mention it. No being a Law Lord for me as there is no such thing as general morality.
The People's Hero Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 The graffitti guys may have been criminal, reckless and foolhardy, stupid indeed, but there but for the grace of God go many of us. I've rarely met anyone who survived doing something stupid and wasn't the wiser for it afterwards. Disagree with both of these points. These people would have been aware of the dangers... they accepted those risks, they got killed. It's unfortunate, yes, but it was always a possibility. Aside from the stupidity of defacing a wall which hardly anyone will see anyway... they were on train tracks! Doubly stupid! Also, to counter your second point, if these people hadn't had any difficulties and had simply done the deed and left unscathed, I don't think they would have learnt any lessons or desisted anyway.
Thracian Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 Disagree with both of these points. These people would have been aware of the dangers... they accepted those risks, they got killed. It's unfortunate, yes, but it was always a possibility. Aside from the stupidity of defacing a wall which hardly anyone will see anyway... they were on train tracks! Doubly stupid! Also, to counter your second point, if these people hadn't had any difficulties and had simply done the deed and left unscathed, I don't think they would have learnt any lessons or desisted anyway. a) I was never contesting whether they were stupid or not. b) I should have said "survived but was injured" doing something stupid.
Rincewind Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 A famous British mountaineer George Mallory was asked once why he wanted to climb Mt. Everest, he replied 'Because it's there' PS Google is marvelous.
The People's Hero Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 a) I was never contesting whether they were stupid or not. b) I should have said "survived but was injured" doing something stupid. Point taken.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 a) I was never contesting whether they were stupid or not. b) I should have said "survived but was injured" doing something stupid. Injured? by a train?
The People's Hero Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 Injured? by a train? Yeah, like the door closing on your leg... or some luggage falling on your head. Or something.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 Yeah, like the door closing on your leg... or some luggage falling on your head. Or something. oh right, before or after is ploughs into you at 125 mph?
Rincewind Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 Not likely to happen if you are outside the train.
lookwhaticando Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 oh right, before or after is ploughs into you at 125 mph? Don't be silly. After, of course. PS: Didn't know trains could do 125mph any more?
DB11 Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 If they were regular vandals then I really have no sympathy for them - they were punished.
The People's Hero Posted 15 January 2007 Posted 15 January 2007 If they were regular vandals then I really have no sympathy for them - they were punished. You might say, they'd gone off the rails long ago. If only they hadn't returned to them.
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