David O'Leary Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 north-stand-fox you are absolutely right logan is a pathetic excuse for a goalkeeper, his communincation with kisnorbo and co. is abosulety shocking, he needs to lose some weight to become more agile, needs to kick moe accurately, and is not as gooder shot-stopper as henderson overall i wud have henderson in my team any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfox Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 north-stand-fox you are absolutely right logan is a pathetic excuse for a goalkeeper, his communincation with kisnorbo and co. is abosulety shocking, he needs to lose some weight to become more agile, needs to kick moe accurately, and is not as gooder shot-stopper as henderson overall i wud have henderson in my team any day Gooder is in fact one of my favourite words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Fox Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 Gooder is in fact one of my favourite words. Along side worser, they complement each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 I don't feel particularly confident with either of them in goal to be honest. Wolves was an absolute shambles but to blame it all on Logan is ridiculous. The whole team were pathetic. Weso and Hughes got overrun in midfield and the defence couldn't cope with the movement of Keogh, Kightly and McIndoe in particular. Either way, having one in for a few games then the other back in for no discernible reason isn't helping anyone. We need a definite #1 all of next season in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 I don't feel particularly confident with either of them in goal to be honest. Wolves was an absolute shambles but to blame it all on Logan is ridiculous. The whole team were pathetic. Weso and Hughes got overrun in midfield and the defence couldn't cope with the movement of Keogh, Kightly and McIndoe in particular.Either way, having one in for a few games then the other back in for no discernible reason isn't helping anyone. We need a definite #1 all of next season in my opinion. On the nail, especially about chopping and changing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 I don't feel particularly confident with either of them in goal to be honest. Wolves was an absolute shambles but to blame it all on Logan is ridiculous. The whole team were pathetic. Weso and Hughes got overrun in midfield and the defence couldn't cope with the movement of Keogh, Kightly and McIndoe in particular.Either way, having one in for a few games then the other back in for no discernible reason isn't helping anyone. We need a definite #1 all of next season in my opinion. On the nail, especially about chopping and changing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 9 May 2007 Author Share Posted 9 May 2007 to those of you who have said im talking complete and utter b****ks and things along that line of thinking; I am a goalkeeper myself, i have played for leicester, and i get trainied by leicester trainers still. All i'm saying is i know my stuff on goalkeeping, say what you like to me about anything else but i know a good keeper when i see one, and a bad one for that matter too. Now i'm not saying henderson is the best keeper in the world but hes a country mile better than logan! Some may say its an opinion. But to be honest my opinion on the goalkeeping subject is more accurate because ive been told the trade, and performed it aswell. I know more than anybody else its not an easy job, being a keeper, and by heck ive made my mistakes aswell! but for me, Logan is too consistant in bad perfromances. And henderson on the other hand is a good keeper, foot movement ( which somebody already mentioned about logans feet, and is 100% correct, its everything they bang on to me at training ) agility and alltogether goalkeeping atributes are that bit better than logan. I couldnt give a monkeys whether hes young. being young wont stop that ball from going in the net one way or the other. I'm flaming young! but i'd but henderson in goal rather than myself all day long. Ive said my bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Ruddle Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 ok mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 I just remember the time you said that Henderson was the best keeper in the Championship :laugh: I just can't take you seriously now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Ruddle Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 I just remember the time you said that Henderson was the best keeper in the Championship :laugh:I just can't take you seriously now did he say that ok maybe he was on form then, but come on....best keeps in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezleylowski Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 to those of you who have said im talking complete and utter b****ks and things along that line of thinking; I am a goalkeeper myself, i have played for leicester, and i get trainied by leicester trainers still. All i'm saying is i know my stuff on goalkeeping, say what you like to me about anything else but i know a good keeper when i see one, and a bad one for that matter too. Now i'm not saying henderson is the best keeper in the world but hes a country mile better than logan! Some may say its an opinion. But to be honest my opinion on the goalkeeping subject is more accurate because ive been told the trade, and performed it aswell. I know more than anybody else its not an easy job, being a keeper, and by heck ive made my mistakes aswell! but for me, Logan is too consistant in bad perfromances. And henderson on the other hand is a good keeper, foot movement ( which somebody already mentioned about logans feet, and is 100% correct, its everything they bang on to me at training ) agility and alltogether goalkeeping atributes are that bit better than logan. I couldnt give a monkeys whether hes young. being young wont stop that ball from going in the net one way or the other. I'm flaming young! but i'd but henderson in goal rather than myself all day long. Ive said my bit Didn't you play for the academy when you where 10? That hardly constitutes leicester training does it? well thats what you said to me on the way to Plymouth anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Ruddle Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 Lets just say, we need a new keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 9 May 2007 Author Share Posted 9 May 2007 Didn't you play for the academy when you where 10? That hardly constitutes leicester training does it? well thats what you said to me on the way to Plymouth anyway. that was when i actually played for the team- i still get the training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezleylowski Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 that was when i actually played for the team- i still get the training I hope you dont pay them for it, because if i where you i would want every penny back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 9 May 2007 Author Share Posted 9 May 2007 I hope you dont pay them for it, because if i where you i would want every penny back haha indeed i do, £3 aswell! but its well worth it, does me alot of good as a keeper, it has definatly made me improve. Maybe Logan should attend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 9 May 2007 Share Posted 9 May 2007 We should get Richard Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 to those of you who have said im talking complete and utter b****ks and things along that line of thinking; I am a goalkeeper myself, i have played for leicester, and i get trainied by leicester trainers still. All i'm saying is i know my stuff on goalkeeping, say what you like to me about anything else but i know a good keeper when i see one, and a bad one for that matter too. Now i'm not saying henderson is the best keeper in the world but hes a country mile better than logan! Some may say its an opinion. But to be honest my opinion on the goalkeeping subject is more accurate because ive been told the trade, and performed it aswell. I know more than anybody else its not an easy job, being a keeper, and by heck ive made my mistakes aswell! but for me, Logan is too consistant in bad perfromances. And henderson on the other hand is a good keeper, foot movement ( which somebody already mentioned about logans feet, and is 100% correct, its everything they bang on to me at training ) agility and alltogether goalkeeping atributes are that bit better than logan. I couldnt give a monkeys whether hes young. being young wont stop that ball from going in the net one way or the other. I'm flaming young! but i'd but henderson in goal rather than myself all day long. Ive said my bit I`d like to officially welcome Kevin Poole to Foxestalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 to those of you who have said im talking complete and utter b****ks and things along that line of thinking; I am a goalkeeper myself, i have played for leicester, and i get trainied by leicester trainers still. All i'm saying is i know my stuff on goalkeeping, say what you like to me about anything else but i know a good keeper when i see one, and a bad one for that matter too. Now i'm not saying henderson is the best keeper in the world but hes a country mile better than logan! Some may say its an opinion. But to be honest my opinion on the goalkeeping subject is more accurate because ive been told the trade, and performed it aswell. I know more than anybody else its not an easy job, being a keeper, and by heck ive made my mistakes aswell! but for me, Logan is too consistant in bad perfromances. And henderson on the other hand is a good keeper, foot movement ( which somebody already mentioned about logans feet, and is 100% correct, its everything they bang on to me at training ) agility and alltogether goalkeeping atributes are that bit better than logan. I couldnt give a monkeys whether hes young. being young wont stop that ball from going in the net one way or the other. I'm flaming young! but i'd but henderson in goal rather than myself all day long. Ive said my bit Interesting analysis, particularly the point about the feet which Manwell mentioned and about Henderson being the more agile. Logan definitely needs to improve these things, plus his command of the box and his distribution but I don't accept the consistency thing at all. Having chance to see Sunday's goals again I'd only give him even partial blame for one and mention the several excellent saves he made. Even if you rate it a poor display he's only had two or three poor games in his 20-odd which is hardly inconsistent and definitely no worse than Henderson who had started to make a habit of dropping clangers since Christmas. They are also different people physically. Logan is bigger and seems to have the greater presence but Henderson is lighter and almost bound to be the more nimble. Question is are either good enough and are either going to be capable of improving their weaknesses?. My route for next season would be to sign a proven, good quality senior keeper and have Logan work tirelessly hard on his game as deputy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I8AM Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 Interesting analysis, particularly the point about the feet which Manwell mentioned and about Henderson being the more agile.Logan definitely needs to improve these things, plus his command of the box and his distribution but I don't accept the consistency thing at all. Having chance to see Sunday's goals again I'd only give him even partial blame for one and mention the several excellent saves he made. Even if you rate it a poor display he's only had two or three poor games in his 20-odd which is hardly inconsistent and definitely no worse than Henderson who had started to make a habit of dropping clangers since Christmas. They are also different people physically. Logan is bigger and seems to have the greater presence but Henderson is lighter and almost bound to be the more nimble. Question is are either good enough and are either going to be capable of improving their weaknesses?. My route for next season would be to sign a proven, good quality senior keeper and have Logan work tirelessly hard on his game as deputy. Wasn't that idea for Rab ?? Look what happened there. Highest paid player is 3rd choice keeper. We always produce good keepers but I'm not convinced on Logan, comes off his line and doesn't deal with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 Wasn't that idea for Rab ?? Look what happened there. Highest paid player is 3rd choice keeper. We always produce good keepers but I'm not convinced on Logan, comes off his line and doesn't deal with anything. Rab was signed on too long a contract but he was steady enough under Levein. He wouldn't have been my choice - I doubt a Scottish goalkeeper would ever be my instinctive choice - but I don't recall him dropping many clangers after that opening day penalty at Sheffield United and he certainly wasn't the reason for our struggling under Levein. I just think we could and should get better than he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I8AM Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 Rab was signed on too long a contract but he was steady enough under Levein.He wouldn't have been my choice - I doubt a Scottish goalkeeper would ever be my instinctive choice - but I don't recall him dropping many clangers after that opening day penalty at Sheffield United and he certainly wasn't the reason for our struggling under Levein. I just think we could and should get better than he was. Yeah agree. But think we would need to clear Rab's wages before (think he still has a year to run on contract). I understand he has no intention of going anywhere. Think 4 keepers maybe too many for us? Walker on loan ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 that was when i actually played for the team- i still get the training could you be any more patronising or dismissive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicester_lad Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 haha indeed i do, £3 aswell! but its well worth it, does me alot of good as a keeper, it has definatly made me improve. Maybe Logan should attend hang on a min, if logan needs to go so does hendo. You really surprise me, you obviously got dropped from the academy so how do you qualify to slate logan when he is the one who has made it through the ranks and is now in the 1st team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I8AM Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 hang on a min, if logan needs to go so does hendo.You really surprise me, you obviously got dropped from the academy so how do you qualify to slate logan when he is the one who has made it through the ranks and is now in the 1st team. sounds like sour grapes....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGibbo Posted 10 May 2007 Share Posted 10 May 2007 That's very logical, a Manager trying to secure a £200,000 a year contract picks a shit goalie to please the fans when both of them, the fans and the manager want nothing more than to avoid relegation.Now I've read it all! relegation was never gonna happen & not at any point did my ars*hole even think of puckering up on this matter as you know we could have lost the last 6 league games & still stayed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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