Manwell Pablo Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 Ha, Anyway to stop Fryatt getting on the bench eh. 3-5-2 Would work with the players we have and would be an option, if we didn't have a manager who religously plays 4-4-2. Which makes the discussion pointless.
Tommeh Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 I really like the look of that team and it seems to fit everyone in nicely. - I've always felt hume would be better in behind the front 2 - Occupys Kaebi well considering what I've heard of his main strenghts. i.e. allowing him to get forward same with Mattock - Keeps our 3 main centre halfs in there. 3 that I cannot choose between. - Allows us to have in essence 3 strikers in Campbell, Hume and Fryatt / Cort - I'm still not totally convinced by Hayes, porter, Newton so wing backs may work better. - Clemence and weso / Kishishev would provide decent protection to the centre backs. Particually Kishishev. Only problems: - As Thracian stated possibly a lack of pace at the back - 1st game, with Kisnorbo being out I don't think we have another Centre half capable of playing as part of a 3. Meaning we would rely on Kisnorbo, McAuley and N'Gottybeing fit and not suspended, which won't happen that often. - I personlly Can't see it happening.
Tommeh Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 mmm THRACIAN -1 POINT FOR PUTTING ELVIS ON THE SUBS BENCH TOTAL = -1 I agree he should be starting, class performer on his day.
Blue Bob Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 The english model for playing football has always been 4-4-2. As kids they have played in this formation and know what they are doing. 3-5-2 is the european model, the pace of football though is a lot slower. Why change to something that we are not very good at. Look how often England tried to play this formation and it did not work so why should we make the same mistakes. The english game works best at 4-4-2 change it and you will struggle.
Thracian Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 The english model for playing football has always been 4-4-2. As kids they have played in this formation and know what they are doing. 3-5-2 is the european model, the pace of football though is a lot slower. Why change to something that we are not very good at. Look how often England tried to play this formation and it did not work so why should we make the same mistakes. The english game works best at 4-4-2 change it and you will struggle. A good coach will choose the system to suit the players rather than making the players fit the system whether they suit it or not. Besides teams should be flexible to adapt to more than one system anyway. I have never undrstood why any manager would make himself slave to one way of playing.
l444ry Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 The english model for playing football has always been 4-4-2. As kids they have played in this formation and know what they are doing. 3-5-2 is the european model, the pace of football though is a lot slower. Why change to something that we are not very good at. Look how often England tried to play this formation and it did not work so why should we make the same mistakes. The english game works best at 4-4-2 change it and you will struggle. Not just in England, Bob. The world over........
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 The english model for playing football has always been 4-4-2. As kids they have played in this formation and know what they are doing. 3-5-2 is the european model, the pace of football though is a lot slower. Why change to something that we are not very good at. Look how often England tried to play this formation and it did not work so why should we make the same mistakes. The english game works best at 4-4-2 change it and you will struggle. Other systems can and have worked in this league and in the Premier league. However I think you are right we should play 4-4-2, and will play 4-4-2, Alan plays a strict 4-4-2.
Daz.I Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 HI ALL based on past teams and formations we have always seemed to do ok with a 3-5-2 and with so many other championship teams playing 4-4-2 maybe something different could give us the edge looking at the players we have aswell then a decent team could be had ------------------------------------------------neilson---------------------------------------------- ----------------------------kisnorbo--------ngotty--------macauley------------------------------ ---kaeebi---------------------------------------------------------------------mattock ------------------clemence--------------------------weslowski------------------------ ------------------------------------hume-------------------------------------------- ---------------------campbell-----------------fryatt/new signing---------------- what you think I had this is mind all along , looks good to me pal
a-fox Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 HI ALL based on past teams and formations we have always seemed to do ok with a 3-5-2 and with so many other championship teams playing 4-4-2 maybe something different could give us the edge looking at the players we have aswell then a decent team could be had ------------------------------------------------neilson---------------------------------------------- ----------------------------kisnorbo--------ngotty--------macauley------------------------------ ---kaeebi---------------------------------------------------------------------mattock ------------------clemence--------------------------weslowski------------------------ ------------------------------------hume-------------------------------------------- ---------------------campbell-----------------fryatt/new signing---------------- what you think up to you mate.
Brainy Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 I'm not sure whether this has been posted.. Interview with Kaebi: *What was the reason you were not in the team line-up? Not line-up, 'tactical puzzle'!! The reason lies starting from last year. I have not played in National team for a year now and never complained. They told me, I was not suitable for 3-5-2 formation, and when the system changes to 4-4-2, I can play. But that did not happen. I have 7 years of International caps with National team but recently I am branded as a weak spot.
TheBlinding Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 I'm not sure whether this has been posted..Interview with Kaebi: *What was the reason you were not in the team line-up? Not line-up, 'tactical puzzle'!! The reason lies starting from last year. I have not played in National team for a year now and never complained. They told me, I was not suitable for 3-5-2 formation, and when the system changes to 4-4-2, I can play. But that did not happen. I have 7 years of International caps with National team but recently I am branded as a weak spot. They have two good right sided players, Kaabi and Mahdavikia, one usually players right back and one right midfield in a 4-4-2 but in a 3-5-2 Mahdavikia is the one they prefer. Thats what I think it is anyways. Nothing to do with him not suiting the system.
Mr Happy Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 The english model for playing football has always been 4-4-2. As kids they have played in this formation and know what they are doing. 3-5-2 is the european model, the pace of football though is a lot slower. Why change to something that we are not very good at. Look how often England tried to play this formation and it did not work so why should we make the same mistakes. The english game works best at 4-4-2 change it and you will struggle. I know its only a film but 'Mike Bassett: England Manager' need I say any more?
Nationwider Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 Following on (in agreement with) Walkers' post.... If Kaebi is: 1. a winger 2. someone we know bugger all about 3. a player with no previous experience of the physical English game ...then how the hell can people be slotting him in at right wing-back - a very, very demanding and specialised position to play in? Bonkers.
Daggers Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 Following on (in agreement with) Walkers' post....If Kaebi is: 1. a winger 2. someone we know bugger all about 3. a player with no previous experience of the physical English game ...then how the hell can people be slotting him in at right wing-back - a very, very demanding and specialised position to play in? Bonkers. I'll tell you what's bonkers - the price of milk products. Cheese is set to go through the roof. Outrageous!
Tevez Posted 29 July 2007 Posted 29 July 2007 Ladies and Gentlemen, Leicester City will be playing 4-4 Fooking 2.
bigjonnyauk Posted 29 July 2007 Author Posted 29 July 2007 for all we know this kaebi fellow may be a bag of poo i mean manderic signed him not allen he may be like that guy graeme souness signed for southampton for loads he came on for about 5 mins then they realised he could not even play and subbed him how about 4-3-3 gk---- neilson/henderson cb ngotty cb macauley rb kaebi lb mattock/chambers dmf kishishev cm clemence cm weslowski ss/rwf porter/newton ss/lwf hume cf campbell tbh i dont care if he plays 2-2-6 as long as we god damn win
Thracian Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 Ladies and Gentlemen, Leicester City will be playing 4-4 Fooking 2. Can I choose the two getting "fooked".
LE8Blue Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 the club dont care about our thought he's the manger and he will decide because he's payed for that at the end of the day init
Thracian Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 the club dont care about our thought he's the manger and he will decide because he's payed for that at the end of the day init Which hardly explains why MA's having posters with fans comments all around the dressing room!
Manwell Pablo Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 Which hardly explains why MA's having posters with fans comments all around the dressing room! Yes, but I don't think posts about 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 formations will be amongst them.
Flynny Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 Ladies and Gentlemen, Leicester City will be playing 4-4 Fooking 2. Class film.
Thracian Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 Yes, but I don't think posts about 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 formations will be amongst them. Broadly you might be right but, from what he has said, he is always open to alternative suggestions and if we start losing too often with 4-4-2 he might well be persuaded to have a rethink. I'm not against 4-4-2. I simply find it hard to see how it best suits our current squad.
Geo V Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 352 could work with the players we have on board, especially as both wing-backs can attack and defend but if we dont try the system in friendlies, we wont be using it in league games. It may be an option if things don't start so well but I have the feeling like most others that it will be a solid 442 formation with players upping there game to keep their place within the team because we`ll have plenty of options to bring in from the bench for under-performers.
l444ry Posted 30 July 2007 Posted 30 July 2007 Surely if Martin Allen had any plans to play the 3-5-2 some appear to want, he would have signed extra wing-backs and centre backs suited to this archaic system. It's amazing what one defeat in an unimportant friendly does to the senses of some.
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