Ollie Interview on BBC

[MPH]

oh ffs tactically inept? ffs look at your team and where you are in the table. Are you not happy with your progress over the last couple of years under ollie's reign. stop ****ing complaining if i were in your league position id be praising the guy. he's turned a crap club, with crap resources, and no money into a winning side!!! it doesnt get much better then that in acheivments value. now stop complaining and being bitter and enjoy your league position while it lasts.

Anyone would think you were talking about Dennis wise the way you slate Holloway when he hasnt doen anything wrong.

i agree he shouldnt comment on his old club here, but he is trying to justify his actions, why dont you listen to him. I wish Megson would come out and explain why he left, but tbh he left because of the money & Fame hed get at Bolton, we should be bitter about that right? but nah weve moved on, maybe you should do the same.

Bit like Martin O'Neill.

He left us for Celtic and i can honestly say you will never hear a bad word about him coming out of my mouth.

[MPH]

right. things to do. why is it i'm busier on my day off than when working?

cha ching. *gone*

[Fat Ron]

right. things to do. why is it i'm busier on my day off than when working?

cha ching. *gone*

Works just something we do to pass the time between 8am and 6pm....

[Foxhateram]

Bit like Martin O'Neill.

He left us for Celtic and i can honestly say you will never hear a bad word about him coming out of my mouth.

Exactly, that is a much better example thankyou!! O'Neill is and always will be a City Legend!!

He took our club forward for a short amount of time, and i and many people appreciate what he did. he said he didnt want to leave etc etc but we understood his move to Celtic. Maybe you pilgrims fans should take a look at what IH has done for your club, he has given you a hope for a play off place. Now grow up and take a look at the real situation rather then the rumours and clap trap that you want to hear.

IH is a great guy, and never meant to hurt anyone by coming here. but the prospects of this club are high and he ahs the freedom with money thanks to Milan to build a winning combination. at Plymouth he was expected to wheel and deal. To get the players you got by wheeling and dealing is some acheivment.

We have been through all this before, wel several times, we sell players because we need the money we did it last year Gareth Williams for example, Joey Gudjonnsen aswell. It was the most frustrating thing in the world. But when you are club with no money and no input then you have to use the business to keep the business, and unfortuantly in football that means selling players.

IH has built a good side for you on next to nothing, you are in a great league position! and yur club has come forward miles in such a short space if time. Appreciate it, and praise IH for what he has done for you. Then you can stop unsettling your own team byu posting clap trap, and starting rumours, and consentrate on staying in 4th Place!!!

[Fat Ron]

Then you can stop unsettling your own team byu posting clap trap, and starting rumours, and consentrate on staying in 4th Place!!!

7th Now mate...

    P GD PTS

1 Watford 20 9 39

2 West Brom 20 18 35

3 Charlton 20 6 34

4 Bristol City 20 2 34

5 Stoke 20 6 33

6 Wolves 20 4 33

7 Plymouth 20 6 30

[Jimmy]

Bit like Martin O'Neill.

He left us for Celtic and i can honestly say you will never hear a bad word about him coming out of my mouth.

i have to admit i called him a few choice words when he said he didn't want the England job the other day ...

[mancunianfox]

Right Back United...

Stearman

Chambers

N'Gotty

McAuley

Maybury

Kenton

Kaebi

Ollie is right about that. That is a lot of players capable of playing one position and I'm sure I have missed someone off.

[MPH]

Right Back United...

Stearman

Chambers

N'Gotty

McAuley

Maybury

Kenton

Kaebi

Ollie is right about that. That is a lot of players capable of playing one position and I'm sure I have missed someone off.

If villa still want Stearman they can have him for 1m

Maybury will prob bugger off to scotland for 100k

Kenton to plymouth in some sort of p/x

Kaebi rediscovers himself as a RM

leaves us with 3 because i consider N'Gotty to be a true CB or even 2 as Mcauley is too really..

[Foxhateram]

Then you can stop unsettling your own team byu posting clap trap, and starting rumours, and consentrate on staying in 4th Place!!!

7th Now mate...

P GD PTS

1 Watford 20 9 39

2 West Brom 20 18 35

3 Charlton 20 6 34

4 Bristol City 20 2 34

5 Stoke 20 6 33

6 Wolves 20 4 33

7 Plymouth 20 6 30

This league is so unbeleivably close, changes far to quickly. ok concentrate on staying in contention of the play off places.

[janner]

I understand your loyalty to your team but £2m each...you sure??

Think you'll find they go for around £750 - £1m.. and thats being generous.

How patronising can you get?

We've already turned down a £1.5m bid from Birmingham for Marcel Seip.

We've already turned down a £1.25m bid from Ipswich and Southampton for David Norris.

We've already turned down a £1m bid from Everton for Dan Gosling.

What makes you think we're going to be clamouring to sell our best players to that backstabbing snake? If anything, the board will be MORE determined NOT to sell to him after the way he left the club, and his conduct of tarring the chairman ever since...not a good way of trying to sign a club's best players.

Whilst you're all revelling in Holloway's quotes, bear in mind he said it all to the QPR fans...we welcomed him to Plymouth and he whispered all the sweet nothings to us too. just remember they're all soundbites and words to him - there is no meaning behind them. Sorry to point out the truth but I'm just trying to save the heartache in the future. If he ever does well at Leicester and a Premier League club comes in for him, or a bigger lower league club (Leeds, Forest, West Brom etc.) he'll be off like a shot. It's always someone else's fault - the QPR chairman was understandable, but he's been given £1.4m to spend at Argyle with decent job security...hardly untenable conditions for a manager to work with!

Holloway likes to portray himself as a god in the fans eyes and will say whatever's necessary to make that happen. He said he left Plymouth Argyle for a chance to get to the Premier League, when we're in the play-offs after half the season and where are Leicester exactly? He says your squad is full of shit players and will be coming for all of Argyle's players. So he's leaving a team of decent players to go to a club with money, to buy all those decent players for another club, spending loads of money,...for the same players. - Right.

I saw two Plymouth Argyle players at the supermarket today, both black and both strikers (work it out). They said the players have lost what respect they had for Holloway and that none of the top players at Argyle will be signing for Leicester whilst Holloway is there. They told me that the older players adore Paul Sturrock from his period in charge before - players like David Norris. It's only a matter of time before 'Holloway's players' realise who the better tactical manager is, and hold Sturrock in such high regard as Paul Wotton, David Norris, Paul Connolly and Luke McCormick.

Players mentioned on this thread: Peter Halmosi (27 years old, current starting Hungarian international - 4 assists and 1 goal in two games), Sylvan Ebanks Blake (21 years old, former Man Utd player, 7 goals this season, on the brink of England U21 call up), Dan Gosling (17 years old, England U18 international, chased by Premiership clubs), Marcel Seip (25 years old, played UEFA Cup football and in the Eredivisie, one of the most promising CBs in this league)...you think you're going to get your hands on these for a few measly hundred grand?

You're all as mad as Holloway and his ridiculous soundbites. £5m-£7m is actually a pretty accurate estimate, they won't be leaving for less than at least £2m each.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Oh good, another one.

And this one appears to be their version of Thracian. Fantastic.

[janner]

see edit above. Ollie has too much integrity so he wont go spouting off what other people have said to him

he will discuss what he has said but not what it said to him

So basically you're saying our chairman was out of order and a 'disgrace', yet you don't know what happened.

Your making the mistake of taking Ian Holloway for a trustworthy character, and taking his quotes on face value.

Bear in mind he also said this.

Ian Holloway: liar, hypocrite, judas - football's biggest fraud. Here are his finest moments.

'THEY (the Argyle directors) made me believe in where I want to go and how I'm going to get there.

"I don't care how long it takes, I want to work towards making something all shiny and all new and look fantastic. I want to be remembered for that.

"So it's not just what we are going to do this, or next year. I don't care how hard it is and what anybody else is paying players.

"It's not about that. We are going to work hard together and bring in the right people to help us there. I want to be a part of it so much it hurts." on his appointment in June, 2006.

"Ask anybody who knows me how I feel about Plymouth Argyle and they will tell you the truth. If you need me to say it again, I'm in love with the place. It's absolutely magnificent." 20 November, 2007

"Ask my players who I'm trying to talk into staying here how Ian Holloway feels about Plymouth Argyle. I think they will tell you the truth." 20 November 2007

"It's all poppycock, if I'm allowed to use that word. It's absolutely pathetic. But the media is a very powerful thing and, unfortunately, a rumour can become a bigger rumour." (on the Leicester City vacant manager speculation) 20 November 2007

"Honest, Passionate, Loyal..." - Words on the back of Ian Holloway's autobiography

"But the fact of the matter is that I'm a very fully-fledged, proud member of the Green Army." Before the QPR match

"Whatever it takes, I will try to move this club forward, by hook or by crook." Ollie on looking to the future.

"i'll never leave you, honestly, I've never walked away from anyone, i've spent five years at every club i've managed, i'll never leave you". Ian Holloway, date unknown

"There's no truth in it, and all it does is upset some Plymouth Argyle fans who think I might be moving. I've signed a contract and until my chairman tells me any different, I'm staying here." Ian Holloway, BBC Column, 01 November 2007

"Every time I've wanted a player, these people have bought me one. We've made Peter Halmosi our record signing, and we've spent £1.1 million in the last year.

"Would I be moaning about that? If they hadn't bought me any players, I'd be moaning, and the first people I'd be moaning to would be them. That's how it is. These stories get out of hand, but hopefully you've got the right answer from me. It's absolute rubbish, and as far as I'm concerned we're giving it power now just by talking about it. The amount of attention it deserves is absolutely nothing."

"There's not a scrap of truth in any of it, and it doesn't stop me getting on with my job to the best of my ability. At least 15 managers have been linked with the Leicester job, and if I'm one of them then that means we must be doing something right down here, doesn't it? Normally we're off the radar down here." 14 November 2007

"I strongly consider they should keep their nose out of our business and conduct what they want to do in a more professional manner.

"If they are trying to upset my player it is bang out of order. If they admire some of my players that's great, but they shouldn't talk about it in the papers."

Ian Holloway on Jim Magilton's public interest in Plymouth Argyle midfielder David Norris

What happened was Holloway was asking for more money when he's blown all of our funds and he knew his budget when he started.

That's it. He didn't like being told he'd signed four expensive strikers and wasn't playing them and that he should make space on the budget if he wanted to add to the squad. Barry Hayles, Nick Chadwick, Rory Fallon, Sylvan Ebanks Blake, Jermaine Easter, Cherno Samba, Reuben Reid, Ashley Barnes...as well as loans like Scott Sinclair - that's just our strikers. It's not cheap, and it's not a sweet shop.

I'm sure he'll be much more suited to Mandaric's bigger budget but don't fall for his propaganda of dragging our chairman's name through the mud just to make his judas like hypocrtice actions easier on his own ego. He can buy all the strikers he wants there on £7k per week wages but some clubs would prefer four simple decent strikers in a rotation policy, not six or seven top earners.

[MPH]

How patronising can you get?

We've already turned down a £1.5m bid from Birmingham for Marcel Seip.

We've already turned down a £1.25m bid from Ipswich and Southampton for David Norris.

We've already turned down a £1m bid from Everton for Dan Gosling.

What makes you think we're going to be clamouring to sell our best players to that backstabbing snake? If anything, the board will be MORE determined NOT to sell to him after the way he left the club, and his conduct of tarring the chairman ever since...not a good way of trying to sign a club's best players.

Whilst you're all revelling in Holloway's quotes, bear in mind he said it all to the QPR fans...we welcomed him to Plymouth and he whispered all the sweet nothings to us too. just remember they're all soundbites and words to him - there is no meaning behind them. Sorry to point out the truth but I'm just trying to save the heartache in the future. If he ever does well at Leicester and a Premier League club comes in for him, or a bigger lower league club (Leeds, Forest, West Brom etc.) he'll be off like a shot. It's always someone else's fault - the QPR chairman was understandable, but he's been given £1.4m to spend at Argyle with decent job security...hardly untenable conditions for a manager to work with!

Holloway likes to portray himself as a god in the fans eyes and will say whatever's necessary to make that happen. He said he left Plymouth Argyle for a chance to get to the Premier League, when we're in the play-offs after half the season and where are Leicester exactly? He says your squad is full of shit players and will be coming for all of Argyle's players. So he's leaving a team of decent players to go to a club with money, to buy all those decent players for another club, spending loads of money,...for the same players. - Right.

I saw two Plymouth Argyle players at the supermarket today, both black and both strikers (work it out). They said the players have lost what respect they had for Holloway and that none of the top players at Argyle will be signing for Leicester whilst Holloway is there. They told me that the older players adore Paul Sturrock from his period in charge before - players like David Norris. It's only a matter of time before 'Holloway's players' realise who the better tactical manager is, and hold Sturrock in such high regard as Paul Wotton, David Norris, Paul Connolly and Luke McCormick.

Players mentioned on this thread: Peter Halmosi (27 years old, current starting Hungarian international - 4 assists and 1 goal in two games), Sylvan Ebanks Blake (21 years old, former Man Utd player, 7 goals this season, on the brink of England U21 call up), Dan Gosling (17 years old, England U18 international, chased by Premiership clubs), Marcel Seip (25 years old, played UEFA Cup football and in the Eredivisie, one of the most promising CBs in this league)...you think you're going to get your hands on these for a few measly hundred grand?

You're all as mad as Holloway and his ridiculous soundbites. £5m-£7m is actually a pretty accurate estimate, they won't be leaving for less than at least £2m each.

pretty simple, really.... they hand in transfer requests.

your chairman who was preparing to sell them anyway wont want to lose them for nothing when their contracts are up.

Oh and guess what!!!! when Martin O'niell left us we had a player or few move on!!!

It isnt rocket science!!!!!

[MPH]

So basically you're saying our chairman was out of order and a 'disgrace', yet you don't know what happened.

Your making the mistake of taking Ian Holloway for a trustworthy character, and taking his quotes on face value.

Bear in mind he also said this.

What happened was Holloway was asking for more money when he's blown all of our funds and he knew his budget when he started.

That's it. He didn't like being told he'd signed four expensive strikers and wasn't playing them and that he should make space on the budget if he wanted to add to the squad. Barry Hayles, Nick Chadwick, Rory Fallon, Sylvan Ebanks Blake, Jermaine Easter, Cherno Samba, Reuben Reid, Ashley Barnes...as well as loans like Scott Sinclair - that's just our strikers. It's not cheap, and it's not a sweet shop.

I'm sure he'll be much more suited to Mandaric's bigger budget but don't fall for his propaganda of dragging our chairman's name through the mud just to make his judas like hypocrtice actions easier on his own ego. He can buy all the strikers he wants there on £7k per week wages but some clubs would prefer four simple decent strikers in a rotation policy, not six or seven top earners.

1. you are doing the exact same thing you are trying to say we are doing. you are believing your chairman over Ollie. Its your chairman thats shafted Ollie for not wanting to keep the players- if he did you would still have him. Simple as.

2. your previous post you said they were good players. thats not what i call blowing your funds...

3. oh dear... yet another bitter and twisted person. Its a shame you cant see what good he has done for your club... Guess what? Martin O'neill left us for a bigger club. We all have fond memories of him.

you really need to stop wasting your time on our threads and get behind your manager .

[janner]

Well we haven't had any transfer requests in yet.

This is a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia...the delusions of grandeur are there for all to see.

The day one of our players hands in a transfer request for a relegation battle, the day football has truly died.

We have only ever lost a couple of players we didn't want to leave - one was Peter Gilbert (£250k to Leicester), the other was Tony Capaldi. Even then £250k for Gilbert was a pretty good deal, he was a faily average player. The reason Capaldi left was because Holloway wanted to tie David Norris down to a long contract at the time, and never sorted Capaldi's contractual situation out. That's how much the players love Ian Holloway.

[janner]

1. your previous post you said they were good players. thats not what i call blowing your funds...

2. oh dear... yet another bitter and twisted person. Its a shame you cant see what good he has done for your club... Guess what? Martin O'neill left us for a bigger club. We all have fond memories of him.

you really need to stop wasting your time on our threads and get behind your manager .

With the greatest of respect, you're not really much of a bigger club. If every football fan had to put a tenner on a club getting to the Prmeiership in the next three years, Plymouth Argyle would be the favourite.

[MPH]

Well we haven't had any transfer requests in yet.

This is a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia...the delusions of grandeur are there for all to see.

The day one of our players hands in a transfer request for a relegation battle, the day football has truly died.

We have only ever lost a couple of players we didn't want to leave - one was Peter Gilbert, the other was Tony Capaldi. The reason Capaldi left was because Holloway wanted to tie David norris down to a long contract at the time, and never sorted Capaldi's situation out. That's how much the players love Ian Holloway.

Oh January will be a great month!

Do you have a plymouth forum you post on? I'd love to know what it is. please tell me what it is as i'll be sure to come and remind you of these posts of yours..

Go on. Tell me which forum you post on. i dare you to. And also what your name is on it.

[janner]

I post on a forum called pasoti.co.uk under the pseudonym 'Nape'.

[MPH]

With the greatest of respect, you're not really much of a bigger club. If every football fan had to put a tenner on a club getting to the Prmeiership in the next three years, Plymouth Argyle would be the favourite.

hahahahahaha!

Any dignity and respect you had at all as someone worth listening to in this thread went completly out of the window in that comment there.

[MPH]

I post on a forum called pasoti.co.uk under the pseudonym 'Nape'.

Did you get that lads?

be sure to look out for me at the end of january

[andyh1884]

Players mentioned on this thread: Peter Halmosi (27 years old, current starting Hungarian international - 4 assists and 1 goal in two games), Sylvan Ebanks Blake (21 years old, former Man Utd player, 7 goals this season, on the brink of England U21 call up), Dan Gosling (17 years old, England U18 international, chased by Premiership clubs), Marcel Seip (25 years old, played UEFA Cup football and in the Eredivisie, one of the most promising CBs in this league)...you think you're going to get your hands on these for a few measly hundred grand?

You're all as mad as Holloway and his ridiculous soundbites. £5m-£7m is actually a pretty accurate estimate, they won't be leaving for less than at least £2m each.

Don't mean to pick fault, but no he isn't, he's 29.

[janner]

How many players do you think will hand in transfer requests? How many players do you think will end up at Leicester in January?

When no-one comes calling and Argyle are fighting for a play-off place, that's when I'll be laughing. And Holloway is forced to blow more millions on players like DJ Campbell

[Rich Fox]

Usually I wouldn't blink an eyelid at a manager doing it but for someone who made himself out to be this loyal working class man who said he'd be here until he got us to premiership he's very dissapointing. Very hypocrital aswell as just weeks before he left he had a go at Akos Buzsaky for leaving to goto QPR for money. It would be nice if someone practiced what they preached. Oh and heres a quote from Ollie when managing us about Jim Magilton after the Ipswich boss made his interest public about Dave Norris:

"I strongly consider they should keep their nose out of our business and conduct what they want to do in a more professional manner.

"If they are trying to upset my player it is bang out of order. If they admire some of my players that's great, but they shouldn't talk about it in the papers."

I suggest he takes his own advice.

he facts are ollie has took Plymouth as far as they can go, its pointless carrying on there with no money and crap attendances. I would have thought you would have got better crowds being the largest club in Devon and cornwall there are no other clubs around I would have thought you had potencial.

Its no good going on about him saying hes unsettling plymouth by saying hes going to poach your players, he works for lcfc now and if he upsets you lot and unsettles you GOOD.

He has upset me a bit moaning at our fans for booing carl cort who is clearly not giving 100%, i think he gets under peoples skin but Martin o neill way a bit like that and look what happened there. Ollies blue army till he leaves then he is a disloyal waxxer that just the way it is. ps we dont want nallis back.

[MPH]

How many players do you think will hand in transfer requests? How many players do you think will end up at Leicester in January?

When no-one comes calling and Argyle are fighting for a play-off place, that's when I'll be laughing. And Holloway is forced to blow more millions on players like DJ Campbell

A quick look on your own board and i can see its not all plymouth fans are as dimwitted as you... at least someone got it right...

tringreen

Joined: 09 Nov 2004

Posts: 1930

Location: Tring Herts

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject:

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FordGreen wrote:

And I hopes Stapes tells the little shite where to stick his £1M!

Out of his control I'm afraid.

If Norris wants out,he'll go.

You can't keep players who don't want to be here.

It's eat or be eaten in English football today.

[janner]

Don't mean to pick fault, but no he isn't, he's 29.

Just checked, not long turned 28. Let's call it a draw.