Head Honcho Posted 4 March 2008 Posted 4 March 2008 A week to go and the website is down for maintenance Think the tickets are cheaper on ebay anyway
Ric Flair Posted 5 March 2008 Posted 5 March 2008 The best week of racing commences next week. I can't wait!! As long as I haven't lost a packet before the Gold Cup race then i'm going to stick a month's wages on Kauto. Denman hasn't got a fookin chance IMO.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 5 March 2008 Posted 5 March 2008 Just looked on the net as i don't know anything about it. It looks awesome four days of racing. What sort of a crowd go to it. (Toffs, young, mixed,).
Head Honcho Posted 5 March 2008 Author Posted 5 March 2008 Just looked on the net as i don't know anything about it. It looks awesome four days of racing. What sort of a crowd go to it. (Toffs, young, mixed,). It's an absolute mix tbh. Not sure of the exact figure but at a guess I'd say maybe 20-25% of the crowd is Irish and another 30% made up of coach parties. It's nigh on impossible these days to get into the regular bars but they have this hugh tent now so getting a drink isn't a problem if you don't mind being herded like cattle but all in all a great day out
Ric Flair Posted 5 March 2008 Posted 5 March 2008 It's an absolute mix tbh.Not sure of the exact figure but at a guess I'd say maybe 20-25% of the crowd is Irish and another 30% made up of coach parties. It's nigh on impossible these days to get into the regular bars but they have this hugh tent now so getting a drink isn't a problem if you don't mind being herded like cattle but all in all a great day out What day you going this year Allen? I'm trying to fix up the big one - Gold Cup Day.
Bert Posted 5 March 2008 Posted 5 March 2008 Love the festival. Especially when the sun is shining, which generally happens on Festival week.
Head Honcho Posted 5 March 2008 Author Posted 5 March 2008 What day you going this year Allen? I'm trying to fix up the big one - Gold Cup Day. I was planning to go on the Tuesday but I can go any day tbh it's only £9.70 return on the train for me so may even do them all. Let me know what day you're going
Head Honcho Posted 5 March 2008 Author Posted 5 March 2008 Love the festival. Especially when the sun is shining, which generally happens on Festival week. Not in 87 it wasn't! The big race won by The Thinker was delayed by over an hour due to heavy snow Still I did pick 6 winners and won the sweep on the coach that day! Just a shame most of us got arrested in Stratford on the way home
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 5 March 2008 Posted 5 March 2008 Sounds like it would be an awesome carnival. I'm going to a race 3 day race carnival i go to each year and that is great 10 horse races a day and 12 greyhound races at night for 2 of the nights. Great to go with a few mates and take a week of work. Fingers crossed we can punt on it over here.
Matt Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 Normally get in the office during dinner to place my bets during the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday then on the Friday off at 2pm down to the pub with the bookies over the road. (Although last year I was stuck working )
Ric Flair Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 I've been known to take the whole week off work just to watch the fooker on the box with a mountain of betting slips and tissues. Alberta's Run, Run, Run..........................
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 I've been known to take the whole week off work just to watch the fooker on the box with a mountain of betting slips and tissues.Alberta's Run, Run, Run.......................... Thats brilliant, i would do the same i think cos i love my racing especially Gallops and Greyhounds
Bert Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 These are both what Matt posted in the betting thread, so i thought I'd post them in here seeing as this is the Cheltenham feestival thread, like. Its for the Derby, it's an unraced horse called - Empowered, availiable at 40's, price's dropping all the time apparently, trained by Chapel-Hyam and apparently its as progressed as much as Authorised (Last years winner) was last year. Anyway was talking to someone today and we were talking about Cheltenham, e.t.c, and he was told by his mate to look out for a horse called "Freeloader" he asked if I could look at what races its in, all he knew was the odds were about 20/1.I've just checked it out on attheraces.com and it runs at Cheltenham on the 14th March, and ranges from 16/1 to 29/1 but 20/1 is an average price for it. I think all Cheltenham bets, tips etc, should be in here, just easier than in the betting thread.
Ric Flair Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 First Day - Tuesday, March 112.00 Anglo Irish Bank Supreme Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) 2m 110y Selection: Cork All Star Danger: Pigeon Island 2.35 Irish Independent Arkle Challenge Trophy Chase (Grade 1) 2m Selection: Noland Danger: Leslingtaylor 3.15 Smurfit Kappa Champion Hurdle Challenge Trophy (Grade 1) 2m 110y Selection: Sizing Europe (Nap) Danger: Sublimity 4.00 William Hill Trophy Handicap Chase (Grade 3) 3m 110y Selection: Mr. Pointment Danger: Royal County Star 4.40 BGC Cross Country Chase 3m 7f Selection: Wonderkid Danger: Garde Champetre 5.20 Fred Winter Juvenile Novices’ Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race) 2m 110y Selection: Crack Away Jack Danger: C’est Ca Second Day - Wednesday, March 12 2.00 Ballymore Properties Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) 2m 5f Selection: Breedsbreeze Danger: Trafford Lad 2.35 Royal & Sun Alliance Chase (Grade 1) 3m 110y Selection: Oscar Park Danger: Air Force One 3.15 Seasons Holidays Queen Mother Champion Chase (Grade 1) 2m Selection: Twist Magic (Nap) Danger: Tamarinbleu 4.00 Coral Cup (Handicap Hurdle) (Grade 3) 2m 5f Selection: Leg Spinner Danger: Kick’s for Free 4.40 Peter O'Sullevan National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup 4m Selection: Over the Creek Danger: Niche Market 5.20 Weatherby's Champion Bumper (Open NH Flat Race) (Grade 1) 2m 110y Selection: Lilywhitedancer Danger: Zaarito Third Day - Thursday, March 13 2.00 Jewson Novices' Handicap Chase (Listed Race) 2m 5f Selection: Dear Villez Danger: Barbers Shop 2.35 Ryanair Chase (Grade 1) 2m 5f Selection: Our Vic (Nap) Danger: Monet’s Garden 3.15 Ladbrokes World Hurdle (Grade 1) 3m Selection: Inglis Drever Danger: Blazing Bailey 4.00 Racing Post Plate Handicap Chase (Grade 3) 2m 5f Selection: Maljimar Danger: Fundamentalist 4.40 Fulke Walwyn Kim Muir Challenge Cup Handicap Chase 3m 1f 110 Selection: Line Ball Danger: Dun Doire 5.20 Pertemps Final (Handicap Hurdle) (Listed Race) 3m Selection: Footy Facts Danger: Cryptic Fourth Day - Friday, March 14 2.00 JCB Triumph Hurdle (Grade 1) 2m 1f Selection: Celestial Halo Danger: Franchoek 2.35 Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) 3m Selection: Carruthers (Nap) Danger: The Tother One 3.15 Totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup (Grade 1) 3m 2f 110y Selection: Kauto Star Danger: Denman 4.00 Christie's Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup 3m 2f 110 Selection: Agus A Vic Danger: Lou Du Moulin Mas 4.35 Johnny Henderson Grand Annual Chase Challenge Cup 2m 110y Selection: Wanango Danger: Andreas 5.10 David Nicholson Mares Only Hurdle (Grade 2) 2m 4f 110y Selection: Sweet Kiln Danger: Gaspara 5.45 Vincent O'Brien County Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) 2m 1f Selection: Psycho Danger: Wingman Found this on the net from a self acclaimed tipper. Some interesting picks in there, some I would and will be backing. I have to completely go against that in the Sun Alliance though, Alberta's Run all the way.
Ric Flair Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 I'm enjoying the look of Wichita lineman. It is indeed a good horse, will be looking closely at the weather though for Wichita.
Ric Flair Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 Preview Night, Headford Arms Hotel, Kells, Co. Meath 28th FebPanel: John Carr (JC),Bob Cooper (BC), Gordon Elliott (GE), Norman Williamson (NW), Ferdy Murphy (FM), Andrew Lynch (AL), Dryden Geary (DG, Tote Ireland), James Griffin (JG, Compere) Supreme Novices: NW: Very impressed by Sentry Duty so far, a very good performance last time. Captain Cee Bee is well fancied and will love the ground. GE: Paul Carberry is very sweet on Muirhead. Was a Cork All Star fan but has gone off him as his jumping is not up to it. BC: Rippling Ring and Sentry Duty are big players in this (Rippling Ring his only AP bet so far). Rippling Ring has gone a bit "wolly" in his coat which is a bit of a worry. FM: Rippling Ring and Sentry Duty won the 2 best trials in the UK. All the Irish horses have kept beating themselves on terrible ground and may have left its mark. Favours the UK horses at this stage. JC: Captain Cee Bee has done nothing wrong and is entitled to be favourite. Cork All Star does not jump well. Thinks there will be an English winner this year, and Deep Purple might be an EW bet. JG: Soplocles EW is the call, great record at Cheltenham and will love the conditions. Arkle: AL: Impressed with Thyne Again but they will go too quick for him in the Arkle. Tidal Bay if he turns up is the call. DG: Mick Fitz is adamant that Mahogany Blaze is good enough. Clopf an EW shout for the Irish horses. NW: Tidal Bay should run in the 3 miler, Noland too short a price for what he has done, and O’Grady fancies Clopf so he would be a decent EW bet. Leslingtaylor has a big shout as he is a tough campaigner that jumps well. FM: Not the best Arkle, but was impressed with thyne Again and he would be there right at the end. Champion Hurdle: JC: Sublimity has had a clear round since Christmas, no trouble, and is working at Leopardstown on Sunday after racing. He is very happy with him and he has an outstanding" chance of winning again. Osana and Sizing Europe will go a "good lick" with Sublimity and Harchibald in behind. "they still have to beat us as I said last year"! BC: Can’t fail to be impressed with Sizing Europe so far and really looking forward to Harchibald. Thinks that Sublimity would be a popular winner. AL: DeValeria is crying out for a good gallop, and will beat all of those that finished in front of him last time out. The horse needed the race last time and has improved a lot for it. Sublimity is the one to beat. DG: There has been an over reaction to Sizing Europes win last time. Confident that Ebaziyan will be placed. NW: Sublimity was an outstanding winner last year and reminds him of Alderbrook a lot. Thinks that Afsoun has an EW chance again and Harchibald is the biggest danger. GE: Sublimity the horse they all have to beat. FM: Sublimity won like a proper Champion Hurdler last year and thinks he will again. Ballymore Properties: DG: They will go too quick for Forpaddyteplasterer. Trafford Lad would have a chance and Nicky Henderson fancies Aigle D’or quite a bit. GE: Agrees that they will go too quick for Forpaddydeplasterer. Whatyouthink is a big price EW. NW: Breedsbreeze is a good tough animal, and Carruthers would be very good value EW if he ran here. AL: Forpaddytheplasterer should win this – thinks he is a proper horse JG: Trafford Lad won his bumper on fast ground and stays well and is the value. BC: Group Captain has an "astounding" chance, was really good on the flat. This is his race. FM: Group Captain is the best in the UK and is Alan Kings best bet at Cheltenham this year! JC: Forpaddytheplasterer would need to improve to win it. Group Captain is the one that reminds him of Sublimity and is the class horse in the race by far. Queen Mother: FM: Need a horse with a high cruising speed for this. Master Minded was not "an ordinary horse" (as was suggested to him) and had a high reputation in France. He was very impressive at Newbury – not many of Alan King’s horses run as if they need a blow. Voy Por looked knackered after that race while Master Minded looked as if he could go around again. Alan King was rattled after the race (suggested that he rather threw the toys out of the pram!) NW: Twist Magis is a very good animal, surprised Ruby is on Master Minder really. Twist Magic is more experienced. Not a fan of Voy Por, and Fair Along would be of interest EW. BC: Fail Along has some decent form in the book and would give you a good run for your cash EW. Bumper: DG: Colm Murphy is very sweet on Zarrito, a proper animal and the winner of this. AL: Meade would be a big fan of Corskeagh Royale if there was cut in the ground. NW: Zarrito has won 3 bumpers, including one on fast ground, which is a big effort. Reckons that David Casey thought Cousin Vinny was Mullin’s best horse at home. GE: Apt Approach was the most impressive P2P horse he has seen in a while. Worried that he sweats up a bit before his races. FM: The English don’t win the bumper but Big Eared Fran would have a very good chance. JC: Zarrito has answered every call so far and wouldn’t back against him. Reckoned he’d be back home by then anyway! BC: Big Eared Fran and Gold Award the best of the English JG: Lilywhitedancer has become a forgotten horse and will be bang there Royal & SunAlliance: DG: Skys the Limit won’t travel over, and expects Tidal Bay to run in this. Silverburn EW is the call AL: Silverburn the horse to beat, has that bit of class about him NW: Silverburn is a Sh1t. Tidal Bay the one if Johnsons are ok on the day GE: Tidal Bay the class horse in the race and AirForceOne will be in the mix BC: Albertas Run won the best trial this year in the UK. Oscar Park jumps well and has a chance FM: Albertas Run made Joe Lively look poor recently, and will improve as John Jo’s tend to for Cheltenham JC: Oscan Park was a decent hurdler and is a decent shout Ryanair: FM: Cheltenham brings out the best in L’Antartique. Ran on well LTO and he is looking forward to the race. Our Vic the danger AL: Our Vic doesn’t jump well enough at the business end, sides with Tamarinbleu NW: Mossbank a much better horse fresh, but rumors of the Gold Cup recently. A huge chance if he runs here. GE: Can’t have Mossbank – probably go for Our Vic of Tamarinblue BC: A big fan of Mossbank but an even bigger fan of The Listener and hopes he runs JC: Mossbank has a big chance but L’Antartique the one. Ferdy’s best bet of the week! Stayers Hurdle: JC: A big cloud over Howard Johnsons yard a worry – wondering why he is talking about retiring the horse before the race! Expects Hardy Eustace to run in the champion. FM: Doumen keen on Kasbah Bliss and thinks he would have a good chance BC: Blazing Bailey will be right there. Material World also a big price EW. JG: The Market Man is a huge price and must be the EW bet GE: Howard Johnson won’t run Ingles Drever if he is not right. Lough Derg has the biggest heart in racing and would love to see him do it. NW: Wonders if Howard Johnson was looking for a bigger price! Kasbah Bliss EW the bet AL: If Ingles Drever turns up he wins. Triumph: GE: Ashkazar well fancied. Harper Valley has a big EW chance if he gets there (fell over the schooling hurdle at the start LTO and banged himself). He is well back on track now though. NW: Impressed with Binoculat last time but his hurdling needs to improve – can turn over the favourite though. AL: Silverhand won well ist time out and has an EW chance DG: Fav is very short currently, Harper Valley a better bet EW. Woninthedark has won a G1 and has to enter the reckoning FM: Serabad EW worth a chance, will handle the rough and tumble well. Franchoek looks good though. BC: Ashkazar has an EW chance Albert Bartlett 3m hurdle: General consensus that the Irish have no chance in this NW: A big Exclusive Dream fan, a real good horse FM: A tough race to call but likes Exclusive Dream, thinks he will stay well BC: Alan King fond of Nenuphar Collognes and he could be the value. Has at least won over 3m JG: It would be great to see Carruthers win for the connections Gold Cup: JC: An easy call – Kauto Star. Denman needs some cut to be at his best. Kicking King won’t be within ½ a fence of these two. FM: Denman does not have Kauto Stars pace. Kauto Star is the best we have seen in a very long time. BC: A wonderful advert for racing this race. Can’t knock Kauto Star A Nicholls 123 a real possibility GE: Kauto Star without doubt NW: Denman passed Ollie Maghern as if he was stood still at Newbury and has more to come. Kauto Star has the class though and will shade it. AL: Kauto Star should be odds-on in this. Knowhere will be 3rd DG: Kauto Star is the class act. A Nicholls 123 the bet NAPS: JC: Other that Sublimity, Agus a Vic in the Foxhunters and Robin Du Bois wherever he ends up FM: Group Captain Lay: Voy Por BC: Ringaroses Lay: Ingles Drever JG: Sophocles EW Lay: Ingles Drever GE: Robin Du Bois Lay: Agus a Vic (jumps too slowly) NW: Ingles Drever Lay: Sizing Europe AL: Kauto Star Lay: Noland DG: Sublimity Lay: Noland Some more shit off the net, might help a few with their picks.
Ric Flair Posted 10 March 2008 Posted 10 March 2008 BUMP! I'm very excited, might be going on Friday!
The People's Hero Posted 10 March 2008 Posted 10 March 2008 I'll be backing Ringaroses. I like the name.
Ric Flair Posted 10 March 2008 Posted 10 March 2008 Leg Spinner, Wonderkid, Alberta's Run, Deep Purple, Apt Approach. Just a few of my fancies.
The People's Hero Posted 10 March 2008 Posted 10 March 2008 Apt Approach is a good shout, in my opinion. I shan't be gambling much this time around, though.
Ric Flair Posted 10 March 2008 Posted 10 March 2008 Apt Approach is a good shout, in my opinion.I shan't be gambling much this time around, though. Haha, me neither. (Deep down I know i'll still be betting on every race)
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