Zingari Posted 13 March 2008 Posted 13 March 2008 What do you suggest then geez?! Every avenue has been explored. Indisputable evidence about the safety of modern standing areas was presented to the government along with the signatures of over 100 MPs who support the motion. Hundreds, probably thousands of letters have been written to clubs, MPs, the police etc on this issue. National newspapers have ran campaigns exposing the fallacies about the dangers of standing at football and called for its reintroduction. None of this altered the fact that the powers that be couldn't give two ****s about the average fan. What's keeping the campaign alive is the fact that every week tens of thousands fans from clubs like Man Utd, Villa, Leeds, Newcastle, Spurs, West Ham etc stand at the football and display that despite the FLA's attempts to turn every fan into a docile, silent sitter many many many want the choice whether to stand or not. It's a shame we can't be one of those clubs. good post I really do not have any suggestions, other than the ones that you say have already been tried (but more of the same maybe ) My main point is not really about the rights and wrongs of standing up , but at the anger that is directed by some fans against the stewards , who are just told what to do. ( sorry if this sounds like a "Nuremberg Defence" ) And it is pointless blaming them or resorting to verbal abuse against them We seem to have become a nation of people that cannot see where blame really lies and attack receptionists, traffic wardens , hospital staff etc etc if we can't get our own way , instead of attacking those that are responsible . again all the best in your campaign
C-man Posted 13 March 2008 Posted 13 March 2008 really i do take the point about standing at grounds ( but dems de rules) and it is no more use blaming the Southampton stewards ( see thread title ) than blaming traffic wardens for where yellow lines are . Traffic wardens should get proper jobs aswell.
Floating Fox Posted 13 March 2008 Posted 13 March 2008 For anyone wanting to complain: [email protected]
ozleicester Posted 13 March 2008 Posted 13 March 2008 Continue to fight the good fight, the right to stand at a match is not asking to much. To those who say accept it..or stop complaining...you are the people who will sit back in ten years and talk about how the world has gone to "hell in a handbasket" etc....if it has/does..its because weak willed opinionless fools allow it to. in the words of those modern day poets The Beastie Boys..."youve gotta fight...for your right...to parrrtay"
Daggers Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 What do you suggest then geez?! A rational, factual approach... Hundreds, probably thousands of letters have been written to clubs, MPs, the police etc on this issue. See? Emotive arguments do not hold water. This problem is only overcome with a demonstration that it makes economic sense to the clubs to build/tollerate standing areas.
Shrenchel Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 See? dunno.gifEmotive arguments do not hold water. This problem is only overcome with a demonstration that it makes economic sense to the clubs to build/tollerate standing areas. I wasn't trying to be emotive geez. I think there are thousands of letters that have been written on the subject, it's not hyperbole. What do you want me to say? I can hardly give an exact figure I know if we could prove to clubs without doubt it would be financially benficial for them then the issue would more likely be resolved. Yet, while top clubs in this country can charge £45 a ticket and still sell out there grounds that's a difficult thing to do. Safe standing areas do offer a slight increase in capacity, but when you factor into the cost of conversion and the fact that it would perhaps be harder for them to justify charging around 50 quid a pop on terrace (although I know plenty of people that would be happy to pay the same price), then it would probably take a fair while for them to make their money back. I don't disagree with your point but I think it just shows what a sad state of affairs football in this country has got itself into when no change that benefits the fans can take place without there being some huge financial incentive for the clubs. In Italy, Spain, France, Germany etc they still manage to use pure fan power to influence the decisions of their clubs, what happened to us?!
Big Ol' Bob Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 This is my letter of complaint if anyone would care to us it as there own, given my highly developed intellectual ability. Dear Southampton Football Club, I am writing to you in regard to the poor treatment of Leicester fans in your recent home game against Leicester City Football Club. I attended the game and thought that the way the "stewards" went about their business was in everyway possible a farce. If you do this shit again, I will come down your stadium and burn it down, Burn that mother****er to the ground you here me. It isn't as if we we were causing trouble anyway, it was a night game afterall and there were not a high number of small children there who's view was being blocked. So you tell your dumbass bitches who waltz around in their yellow and orange jackets that if they ever, EVER, try it on with me and my homeys again then I will get my dad. Yer you heard. My FARSHER. So go shove your Southampton noses up Matt le Tissier's rectum and dont come back until your'e ready to apologise. To be honest, I'm not bothered we lost, because your the ones who have the queer accents, and also I'd like to say what a bob atmosphere your ground has. Dont touch my digestives. Bye. Yours Sincerely, Ian Holloway. XXXX Leicester City Football Club
C-man Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 This is my letter of complaint if anyone would care to us it as there own, given my highly developed intellectual ability.Dear Southampton Football Club, ...blah blah blah.... Yours Sincerely, Ian Holloway. XXXX Leicester City Football Club That were funny.
Shrenchel Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 This is my letter of complaint if anyone would care to us it as there own, given my highly developed intellectual ability.Dear Southampton Football Club, I am writing to you in regard to the poor treatment of Leicester fans in your recent home game against Leicester City Football Club. I attended the game and thought that the way the "stewards" went about their business was in everyway possible a farce. If you do this shit again, I will come down your stadium and burn it down, Burn that mother****er to the ground you here me. It isn't as if we we were causing trouble anyway, it was a night game afterall and there were not a high number of small children there who's view was being blocked. So you tell your dumbass bitches who waltz around in their yellow and orange jackets that if they ever, EVER, try it on with me and my homeys again then I will get my dad. Yer you heard. My FARSHER. So go shove your Southampton noses up Matt le Tissier's rectum and dont come back until your'e ready to apologise. To be honest, I'm not bothered we lost, because your the ones who have the queer accents, and also I'd like to say what a bob atmosphere your ground has. Dont touch my digestives. Bye. Yours Sincerely, Ian Holloway. XXXX Leicester City Football Club Hilarious. Wanna be mates?
City Fan Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 If you're breaking the ground regulations, then you are risking getting thrown out. Only complete feckwits will keep doing something when have previously be warned. No sympathy at all - seats are to sit in.
Simi Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 If you're breaking the ground regulations, then you are risking getting thrown out. Only complete feckwits will keep doing something when have previously be warned. No sympathy at all - seats are to sit in. This is the classic display of ignorance from someone that already has there own way.
Guest Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 If you're breaking the ground regulations, then you are risking getting thrown out. Only complete feckwits will keep doing something when have previously be warned. No sympathy at all - seats are to sit in. Thank goodness people aren't relying on you to make a difference.
Daggers Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 I just stumbled across a picture of City Boy with a reconstructed difference engine that he made.
Shrenchel Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 No doubt the kind of prat that would still come on after a cup game/relegation six pointer where everyone had stood and declare that we have amazing fans and it was the best atmosphere of the season.
Floating Fox Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 If you're breaking the ground regulations, then you are risking getting thrown out. Only complete feckwits will keep doing something when have previously be warned. No sympathy at all - seats are to sit in. So why can't we have somewhere to stand?
Zingari Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 So why can't we have somewhere to stand? outside the ground just joking
C-man Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 If you're breaking the ground regulations, then you are risking getting thrown out. Only complete feckwits will keep doing something when have previously be warned. No sympathy at all - seats are to sit in. And football is there for enjoyment, but attitudes like this are restricting. You either lost someone close to you at Hillsborough or you're just a complete arse. I bet you its not the former.
Zingari Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 If the stewards threw someone out for persistently refusing to stop smoking , would they somehow be miraculously transformed from small dicked fascist oppressors to defenders of the rights of the majority . A smoker may also argue that his enjoyment at a match is ruined by his right to smoking being denied to him , he may also argue that it does not affect those around him ( they often do) , he may also argue that an area should be set aside in the ground for smokers. So in the meantime he retains the view that he should continue to smoke wherever he wants until he gets his own way ( by whatever methods) But would you agree with his stance
Simi Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 If the stewards threw someone out for persistently refusing to stop smoking , would they somehow be miraculously transformed from small dicked fascist oppressors to defenders of the rights of the majority .A smoker may also argue that his enjoyment at a match is ruined by his right to smoking being denied to him , he may also argue that it does not affect those around him ( they often do) , he may also argue that an area should be set aside in the ground for smokers. So in the meantime he retains the view that he should continue to smoke wherever he wants until he gets his own way ( by whatever methods) But would you agree with his stance Smoking is a clear health hazard and can have serious consequences for others. Standing doesn't, when done properly. There's no real evidence of serious injuries caused by it. Don't bring up Hillsborough, if you know what actually caused it.
Basingstoke Fox Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 If you're breaking the ground regulations, then you are risking getting thrown out. Only complete feckwits will keep doing something when have previously be warned. No sympathy at all - seats are to sit in. Its a football game not f**king school or church!! Are you one of those c**ts who moan about swearing in the kop aswell?
City Fan Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 So why can't we have somewhere to stand? I'm all for introducing terracing so that people can stand, but when you go to a stadium which is fully seated you just have to put up with it.
City Fan Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 And football is there for enjoyment, but attitudes like this are restricting. You either lost someone close to you at Hillsborough or you're just a complete arse.I bet you its not the former. How the feck does sitting make you enjoy it any less?
City Fan Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 Are you one of those c**ts who moan about swearing in the kop aswell? Are you one of those chavs who stand and swear in the Kop?
City Fan Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 Smoking is a clear health hazard and can have serious consequences for others. Standing doesn't, when done properly. There's no real evidence of serious injuries caused by it. Don't bring up Hillsborough, if you know what actually caused it. But they're both annoyances to people who don't want to stand/smoke.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 But they're both annoyances to people who don't want to stand/smoke. How is standing at the back of a stand an annoyance to anyone else? Fair enough if you're standing halfway down, that's just common sense.
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