Bryn Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 I believe this plan can circumvent EU legislation.Blatter's plan is not to exclude the clubs from employing foreign nationals but to govern the rules on what team the clubs put out. In fact the clubs can employ as many foreing nationals as they like. However, when it comes to competition, only five are allowed to play. In that way, it circumvents EU legislation in that it does not restrict the right to employment within the EU, but instead restricts the clubs as to what sort of team they can field. This is more likely to result in the G14 pulling away from football's governing bodies. The G-14 doesn't exist anymore.
filbertway Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 Different employment rights.If you are English, you have a 1 in 11 chance of starting - if you are foreign you have a 1 in 6. What? Don't you mean 6/11 for english and 5/11 for foriegners? It should never have come to this anyway, we should try and blood as many english players as possible. Thats what they do in countries like Italy and spain.
C-man Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 What? Don't you mean 6/11 for english and 5/11 for foriegners? It should never have come to this anyway, we should try and blood as many english players as possible. Thats what they do in countries like Italy and spain. No, because its a minimum of 6 homegrown players, there could be 11. I don't know where he got the 1 in 6 from though. I would have thought that depended entirely on the make-up of the squad.
filbertway Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 No, because its a minimum of 6 homegrown players, there could be 11.I don't know where he got the 1 in 6 from though. I would have thought that depended entirely on the make-up of the squad. Yeh I suppose you're right, but why are managers suddenly going to start picking 8,9,10 home grown players after years of using a fair few foriegn players?
Number 6 Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 Yeh I suppose you're right, but why are managers suddenly going to start picking 8,9,10 home grown players after years of using a fair few foriegn players? Well, if the scheme were to work then in theory every club should have a string of quality English players who could make the first 11, in theory this isn't going to happen. Plus what happens if a team like Chelsea have the likes of Terry and Lampard out at the same time. They will have to make allowances for this and so are likely to buy more people like SWP, who will get wasted there as back up, just in case the English talent gets injured.
C-man Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 Whatever people think about this possible rule, everyone has to admit Arsenal playing 0.34 English players per game, thats 1 every 3 games, is a huge problem that needs addressing.
lookwhaticando Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 Like the Horsefields, the Corts and the Howards of this world, right?Just because they're English doesn't mean they give a fook (and vice versa) :laugh: Way to totally miss the joke. I dont think he meant it like that.
Guest Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 *Runs to FM to start an arsenal game using 6+5 rules* Let us all know how you get on with that
Houdini Logic Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 :laugh: Way to totally miss the joke. Maybe i missed a trick somewhere - i thought you were saying English players are passionate about the game, but foreigners know how to score!
lookwhaticando Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 Maybe i missed a trick somewhere - i thought you were saying English players are passionate about the game, but foreigners know how to score! There was no depth of hidden meaning to my comment. It's a simple play on the name of the rule - six plus five. Six players who care, five who can score. Nowhere did I mention any differentiation between home-grown and foreign players.
beemeroo Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 Let us all know how you get on with that Don't know if this is the right place to talk about it but its not easy... If this happens in real life Arsenal are pretty wotsit'd.
beemeroo Posted 30 May 2008 Posted 30 May 2008 No oversea's players will ever come to us anyway! Aside from Hume, Wesolowsi, Kishishev, N'gotty, Fulop, Kaebi, Hellings, Ferreira, Nielsen, Gradel, De Vries and Hammond? To name just those that have been on our books over the past 12months. Doesn't include the Welsh, Scottish and Irish/Northern Irish players because I'm not sure if that'll count or not. Edit: Forgot Kisnorbo
Craig Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 If this is against EU legislation, how comes it was/is (not sure about anymore) allowed in cricket?
Joe. Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 If this is against EU legislation, how comes it was/is (not sure about anymore) allowed in cricket? Kolpak Ruling
Craig Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 Ahhh right. That explains everything then. I was thinking back to the old Cricket Captain days :whistle:
El_Thief Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 i was thinking also if this rule did come in to place then would clubs ask the foreign players who have played in this country for 5 years or more i thnk it is to go for citizenship so its one way of getting round the rule
Joe. Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 i was thinking also if this rule did come in to place then would clubs ask the foreign players who have played in this country for 5 years or more i thnk it is to go for citizenship so its one way of getting round the rule Well the rule is apparently going to state the player must be elegible ot play for England to become one of "the 5". So really it all depends whether the player is already an international or not. Even if they've achieved British citizenship, if they've played for their country they're no longer elegible to play for England. So for big clubs mainly it's be difficult to go around the rule.
lildave3 Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 Well the rule is apparently going to state the player must be elegible ot play for England to become one of "the 5". So really it all depends whether the player is already an international or not. Even if they've achieved British citizenship, if they've played for their country they're no longer elegible to play for their country. So for big clubs mainly it's be difficult to go around the rule. Odd, other countries allow people to be named as a home player once they've lived there for so long. I think anyway, i'm fairly sure Turkey do.
Joe. Posted 31 May 2008 Posted 31 May 2008 Odd, other countries allow people to be named as a home player once they've lived there for so long.I think anyway, i'm fairly sure Turkey do. Hmmm, I'm not really 100% sure. But I'm sure I heard the player must be elegible to play for England, and therefore a player with an international cap for another country wouldn't be able to do this.
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