Simi Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Henderson Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev PowellGradel Oakley King DyerHoward Dickov
Milan Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 I know King shouldn't be in the team in front of Weso, I don't see what value he adds.
Lovejoy Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Martin Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs Powell Gradel Oakley Kiing Dyer Howard Fryatt
Thracian Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 I know King shouldn't be in the team in front of Weso, I don't see what value he adds. Well, just for starters Andy King is already our third most prolific shot taker with 7 shots on target six off target and one hitting the woodwork. Only Fryatt and Howard have had more shots. Wesolowski is 13th with one shot so far. Not only is King a capable attacker when given chance as his shooting record shows but he wins lots of headers in defensive situations. He was introduced when Pearson was concerned about us leaking goals pre-season and is part of the reason for our defensive stability with just two league goals conceded thus far so far and five clean sheets in eight games all told.
ThorpeAstleyFox Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Well, just for starters Andy King is already our third most prolific shot taker with 7 shots on target six off target and one hitting the woodwork. Only Fryatt and Howard have had more shots. Wesolowski is 13th with one shot so far.Not only is King a capable attacker when given chance as his shooting record shows but he wins lots of headers in defensive situations. He was introduced when Pearson was concerned about us leaking goals pre-season and is part of the reason for our defensive stability with just two league goals conceded thus far so far and five clean sheets in eight games all told. Please stop these meaningless statistical comparisons between King and Wesolowski. King has had way more time on the pitch and is a different type of player. For what it's worth, I agree with you, I would pick King above Wesolowski because of his height advantage and his better use of the ball. These are just my opinions - it is not possible to find comparable statistics to back them up. As for the team against Leyton Orient: Henderson Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs BernerAdams Oakley King DyerFryatt Howard Subs: Martin, Morrison, Gradel, Wesolowski, Campbell
Joe. Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Henderson Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev Powell Gradel Oakley King Dyer Howard Fryatt One poor game doesn't change much for me (this is the same team I would have picked for Millwall).
Tilley Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Oakley One poor game doesn't change much for me (this is the same team I would have picked for Millwall). I see where you are coming from mate, but Oakley hasn't played well so far this season, the guy is extremely inconsistant. I would play Weso instead, give Oakley a kick up the arse, show him he isn't untouchable. Your not coming this one, are ya?
Thracian Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Please stop these meaningless statistical comparisons between King and Wesolowski. King has had way more time on the pitch and is a different type of player. For what it's worth, I agree with you, I would pick King above Wesolowski because of his height advantage and his better use of the ball. These are just my opinions - it is not possible to find comparable statistics to back them up.As for the team against Leyton Orient: Henderson Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs BernerAdams Oakley King DyerFryatt Howard Subs: Martin, Morrison, Gradel, Wesolowski, Campbell The stats don't just compare King with Weso. I am well aware the Aussie has had far fewer matches and he's not a great shot taker anyway. What the figures show is that King is ahead of many others who have played regularly for shots taken. Shooting is a feature of his game when he's encouraged to attack.
mmarkie Posted 14 September 2008 Author Posted 14 September 2008 Please stop these meaningless statistical comparisons between King and Wesolowski. King has had way more time on the pitch and is a different type of player. For what it's worth, I agree with you, I would pick King above Wesolowski because of his height advantage and his better use of the ball. These are just my opinions - it is not possible to find comparable statistics to back them up.As for the team against Leyton Orient: Henderson Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs BernerAdams Oakley King DyerFryatt Howard Subs: Martin, Morrison, Gradel, Wesolowski, Campbell Dickov should at least be on the bench
Joe. Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 I see where you are coming from mate, but Oakley hasn't played well so far this season, the guy is extremely inconsistant. I would play Weso instead, give Oakley a kick up the arse, show him he isn't untouchable. Your not coming this one, are ya? No. <_< I think Oakley's been alright this season so far to be honest, not as bad as you make out anyway. I'd still have him in my team despite a poor performance Saturday.
Tilley Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Dickov should at least be on the bench He HAS to be. The guy is only here for a quick payday. Will take many goals to change my mind. Would rather see Campbell play.
Tilley Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 No. <_< I think Oakley's been alright this season so far to be honest, not as bad as you make out anyway. I'd still have him in my team despite a poor performance Saturday. My Oakley is your Fryatt. He had a thirty minute good spell against Cheltenham in second half which was capped with a goal, was shit yesterday, was woeful at Stockport in the league. He has not put a solid 90 minute performance in once this season, in my opinion. Shame that, who's 18th is it?
Ultra Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Henderson Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev BernerAdams King Oakley DyerHoward Fryatt Subs: Martin, Morrison, Wesolowski, Dickov, Campbell Give Gradel a rest, his off-field issues are clearly affecting his game. And with FIVE outfield players aged 21 or younger, we need an experienced keeper to add some balance to the team.
Sods Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Martin Gilbert if fit Tunchev Hobbs Powell Gradel Oakley Wesolowski Dyer Fryatt Dickov Subs Morrison King Adams Howard DJ I would shake it up a bit and give players like Howard and King a bit of a rest. Dickov deserves a start, Fryatt or Howard? I like Howard more but Fryatt has scored more goals and looks generally more threatening. I was thinking off dropping Gradel as one of the problems we had on Saturday was we were looking for him too much which can be a problem as the opposition are aware of this. Big Game for us this is to get back to winning ways. That international break didn't help us never mind an early kick off
Corky Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 MartinGilbert if fit Tunchev Hobbs Powell Gradel Oakley Wesolowski Dyer Fryatt Dickov Subs Morrison King Adams Howard DJ I would shake it up a bit and give players like Howard and King a bit of a rest. Dickov deserves a start, Fryatt or Howard? I like Howard more but Fryatt has scored more goals and looks generally more threatening. I was thinking off dropping Gradel as one of the problems we had on Saturday was we were looking for him too much which can be a problem as the opposition are aware of this. Big Game for us this is to get back to winning ways. That international break didn't help us never mind an early kick off I think you've been listening to Micky Adams a bit too much
Sods Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 I think you've been listening to Micky Adams a bit too much Think its 16 games and one win! I blame the police for not being able to control a few idiots. Micky Adams was right
Bert Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Well, just for starters Andy King is already our third most prolific shot taker with 7 shots on target six off target and one hitting the woodwork. Only Fryatt and Howard have had more shots. Wesolowski is 13th with one shot so far.Not only is King a capable attacker when given chance as his shooting record shows but he wins lots of headers in defensive situations. He was introduced when Pearson was concerned about us leaking goals pre-season and is part of the reason for our defensive stability with just two league goals conceded thus far so far and five clean sheets in eight games all told. Yes but King isn't the reason why we've only conceded two, the defence is. HendersonGilbert Hobbs Tunchev Powell Gradel Oakley King Dyer Howard Fryatt One poor game doesn't change much for me (this is the same team I would have picked for Millwall). When Fryatt had a poor 45 mins, you wanted him dropped.
lildave3 Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Don't care Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs Berner Gradel King Oakley Dyer Fryatt Howard.
clazkel Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Even though Howard has been playing well this season and i think it was the midfield and defence that were poor against Millwall, i think Fryatt is the best striker we have and it may be time to play him up front with a different striker. Rather than waiting for Howard to knock balls onto him, play him with Dickov or DJ and there will be more movement up front and i think it will suit Fryatt better. Howard has played every (or just about every) game this season including the cup games so i think its time to try something different. I have changed my mind and would like the team to be: Hendo Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs O'NeillAdams Oakley Weso DyerDickov Fryatt Subs: Howard, Gradel, Morrison, King, Powell
eye666 Posted 14 September 2008 Posted 14 September 2008 Nearly the same team I would assume. Maybe Hendo in but I think ol' Nige will stick with Martin. Hopefully the Tunch will be in centre of defence as the young pairing made a hash of many long balls coming their way - hopefully Tunch would be more solid. Adams should be on the bench, bit of variety second half against tired legs. Dyer looked poor against Millwall so maybe Levi on the bench as well. Keep the same team besides that and drop Campbell or Dickov from the bench so Adams can be in the squad. Maybe if King is playing gash he could play centre mid?
Thracian Posted 15 September 2008 Posted 15 September 2008 Yes but King isn't the reason why we've only conceded two, the defence is. For such a knowledgeable guy, and outstanding supporter home or away, I'm surprised you say that cos you well know that a defence isn't just four men in a back line. It is an entire team working to restrict the opposition from the moment they get the ball and a major feature of our play this season - even acccording to opposing managers - has been the speed and efficiency of our closing down. In that respect King and Oakley have been outstanding because neither ball watch, they cover space, with King being additionally useful in the air as was demonstrated on several occasions Saturday.
Corky Posted 15 September 2008 Posted 15 September 2008 Think its 16 games and one win! I blame the police for not being able to control a few idiots. Micky Adams was right Ah, but the Tiggers were at home as well, that's why it was moved. Or so we are told
Bert Posted 15 September 2008 Posted 15 September 2008 For such a knowledgeable guy, and outstanding supporter home or away, I'm surprised you say that cos you well know that a defence isn't just four men in a back line.It is an entire team working to restrict the opposition from the moment they get the ball and a major feature of our play this season - even acccording to opposing managers - has been the speed and efficiency of our closing down. In that respect King and Oakley have been outstanding because neither ball watch, they cover space, with King being additionally useful in the air as was demonstrated on several occasions Saturday. Maybe i was a bit rash. King has pleasantly surprised me this season, and has stepped up well. Maybe I could've worded my post better.
colbo68 Posted 15 September 2008 Posted 15 September 2008 No. <_< I think Oakley's been alright this season so far to be honest, not as bad as you make out anyway. I'd still have him in my team despite a poor performance Saturday. ive said it before and will say it again - City's success this season will be based upon the form and performances of the centre midfield - at this level, games will be won and lost in the middle of the park - and Oakley is a key player here - if he continues to put in average performances I would have no hesitation in trying a Wesa/King combination and giving Oakley a kick up the arse - in fact, drop Oakley for the Orient game and lets assess the effect of this
Ben Posted 15 September 2008 Posted 15 September 2008 Henderson Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev Berner Gradel Oakley King Dyer Howard, Fryatt Subs: Morrison, Adams, Porter, Dickov, Campbell
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