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mmarkie

Team For Leyton Orient

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I know King shouldn't be in the team in front of Weso, I don't see what value he adds.

Well, just for starters Andy King is already our third most prolific shot taker with 7 shots on target six off target and one hitting the woodwork. Only Fryatt and Howard have had more shots. Wesolowski is 13th with one shot so far.

Not only is King a capable attacker when given chance as his shooting record shows but he wins lots of headers in defensive situations. He was introduced when Pearson was concerned about us leaking goals pre-season and is part of the reason for our defensive stability with just two league goals conceded thus far so far and five clean sheets in eight games all told.

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Well, just for starters Andy King is already our third most prolific shot taker with 7 shots on target six off target and one hitting the woodwork. Only Fryatt and Howard have had more shots. Wesolowski is 13th with one shot so far.

Not only is King a capable attacker when given chance as his shooting record shows but he wins lots of headers in defensive situations. He was introduced when Pearson was concerned about us leaking goals pre-season and is part of the reason for our defensive stability with just two league goals conceded thus far so far and five clean sheets in eight games all told.

Please stop these meaningless statistical comparisons between King and Wesolowski. King has had way more time on the pitch and is a different type of player. For what it's worth, I agree with you, I would pick King above Wesolowski because of his height advantage and his better use of the ball. These are just my opinions - it is not possible to find comparable statistics to back them up.

As for the team against Leyton Orient:

Henderson



Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs Berner

Adams Oakley King Dyer

Fryatt Howard

Subs: Martin, Morrison, Gradel, Wesolowski, Campbell
Posted

Henderson

Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev Powell

Gradel Oakley King Dyer

Howard Fryatt

One poor game doesn't change much for me (this is the same team I would have picked for Millwall).

Posted
Oakley

One poor game doesn't change much for me (this is the same team I would have picked for Millwall).

I see where you are coming from mate, but Oakley hasn't played well so far this season, the guy is extremely inconsistant.

I would play Weso instead, give Oakley a kick up the arse, show him he isn't untouchable.

Your not coming this one, are ya?

Posted
Please stop these meaningless statistical comparisons between King and Wesolowski. King has had way more time on the pitch and is a different type of player. For what it's worth, I agree with you, I would pick King above Wesolowski because of his height advantage and his better use of the ball. These are just my opinions - it is not possible to find comparable statistics to back them up.

As for the team against Leyton Orient:

Henderson



Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs Berner

Adams Oakley King Dyer

Fryatt Howard

Subs: Martin, Morrison, Gradel, Wesolowski, Campbell

The stats don't just compare King with Weso. I am well aware the Aussie has had far fewer matches and he's not a great shot taker anyway. What the figures show is that King is ahead of many others who have played regularly for shots taken. Shooting is a feature of his game when he's encouraged to attack.

Posted
Please stop these meaningless statistical comparisons between King and Wesolowski. King has had way more time on the pitch and is a different type of player. For what it's worth, I agree with you, I would pick King above Wesolowski because of his height advantage and his better use of the ball. These are just my opinions - it is not possible to find comparable statistics to back them up.

As for the team against Leyton Orient:

Henderson



Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs Berner

Adams Oakley King Dyer

Fryatt Howard

Subs: Martin, Morrison, Gradel, Wesolowski, Campbell

Dickov should at least be on the bench

Posted
I see where you are coming from mate, but Oakley hasn't played well so far this season, the guy is extremely inconsistant.

I would play Weso instead, give Oakley a kick up the arse, show him he isn't untouchable.

Your not coming this one, are ya?

No. <_<

I think Oakley's been alright this season so far to be honest, not as bad as you make out anyway. I'd still have him in my team despite a poor performance Saturday.

Posted
Dickov should at least be on the bench

He HAS to be.

The guy is only here for a quick payday.

Will take many goals to change my mind.

Would rather see Campbell play.

Posted
No. <_<

I think Oakley's been alright this season so far to be honest, not as bad as you make out anyway. I'd still have him in my team despite a poor performance Saturday.

My Oakley is your Fryatt.

He had a thirty minute good spell against Cheltenham in second half which was capped with a goal, was shit yesterday, was woeful at Stockport in the league.

He has not put a solid 90 minute performance in once this season, in my opinion.

Shame that, who's 18th is it?

Posted

Henderson



Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev Berner

Adams King Oakley Dyer

Howard Fryatt

Subs: Martin, Morrison, Wesolowski, Dickov, Campbell

Give Gradel a rest, his off-field issues are clearly affecting his game.

And with FIVE outfield players aged 21 or younger, we need an experienced keeper to add some balance to the team.

Posted

Martin

Gilbert if fit

Tunchev

Hobbs

Powell

Gradel

Oakley

Wesolowski

Dyer

Fryatt

Dickov

Subs

Morrison

King

Adams

Howard

DJ

I would shake it up a bit and give players like Howard and King a bit of a rest. Dickov deserves a start, Fryatt or Howard?

I like Howard more but Fryatt has scored more goals and looks generally more threatening. I was thinking off dropping Gradel as one of the problems we had on Saturday was we were looking for him too much which can be a problem as the opposition are aware of this.

Big Game for us this is to get back to winning ways. That international break didn't help us never mind an early kick off :angry:

Posted
Martin

Gilbert if fit

Tunchev

Hobbs

Powell

Gradel

Oakley

Wesolowski

Dyer

Fryatt

Dickov

Subs

Morrison

King

Adams

Howard

DJ

I would shake it up a bit and give players like Howard and King a bit of a rest. Dickov deserves a start, Fryatt or Howard?

I like Howard more but Fryatt has scored more goals and looks generally more threatening. I was thinking off dropping Gradel as one of the problems we had on Saturday was we were looking for him too much which can be a problem as the opposition are aware of this.

Big Game for us this is to get back to winning ways. That international break didn't help us never mind an early kick off :angry:

I think you've been listening to Micky Adams a bit too much :giggle:

Posted
I think you've been listening to Micky Adams a bit too much :giggle:

Think its 16 games and one win!

I blame the police for not being able to control a few idiots.

Micky Adams was right :thumbup:

Posted
Well, just for starters Andy King is already our third most prolific shot taker with 7 shots on target six off target and one hitting the woodwork. Only Fryatt and Howard have had more shots. Wesolowski is 13th with one shot so far.

Not only is King a capable attacker when given chance as his shooting record shows but he wins lots of headers in defensive situations. He was introduced when Pearson was concerned about us leaking goals pre-season and is part of the reason for our defensive stability with just two league goals conceded thus far so far and five clean sheets in eight games all told.

Yes but King isn't the reason why we've only conceded two, the defence is.

Henderson

Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev Powell

Gradel Oakley King Dyer

Howard Fryatt

One poor game doesn't change much for me (this is the same team I would have picked for Millwall).

When Fryatt had a poor 45 mins, you wanted him dropped.

:P

Posted

Even though Howard has been playing well this season and i think it was the midfield and defence that were poor against Millwall, i think Fryatt is the best striker we have and it may be time to play him up front with a different striker. Rather than waiting for Howard to knock balls onto him, play him with Dickov or DJ and there will be more movement up front and i think it will suit Fryatt better. Howard has played every (or just about every) game this season including the cup games so i think its time to try something different. I have changed my mind and would like the team to be:

Hendo



Gilbert Tunchev Hobbs O'Neill

Adams Oakley Weso Dyer

Dickov Fryatt

Subs: Howard, Gradel, Morrison, King, Powell

Posted

Nearly the same team I would assume. Maybe Hendo in but I think ol' Nige will stick with Martin. Hopefully the Tunch will be in centre of defence as the young pairing made a hash of many long balls coming their way - hopefully Tunch would be more solid. Adams should be on the bench, bit of variety second half against tired legs. Dyer looked poor against Millwall so maybe Levi on the bench as well. Keep the same team besides that and drop Campbell or Dickov from the bench so Adams can be in the squad. Maybe if King is playing gash he could play centre mid?

Posted

Yes but King isn't the reason why we've only conceded two, the defence is.

For such a knowledgeable guy, and outstanding supporter home or away, I'm surprised you say that cos you well know that a defence isn't just four men in a back line.

It is an entire team working to restrict the opposition from the moment they get the ball and a major feature of our play this season - even acccording to opposing managers - has been the speed and efficiency of our closing down.

In that respect King and Oakley have been outstanding because neither ball watch, they cover space, with King being additionally useful in the air as was demonstrated on several occasions Saturday.

Posted
Think its 16 games and one win!

I blame the police for not being able to control a few idiots.

Micky Adams was right :thumbup:

Ah, but the Tiggers were at home as well, that's why it was moved. Or so we are told :ph34r:

Posted
For such a knowledgeable guy, and outstanding supporter home or away, I'm surprised you say that cos you well know that a defence isn't just four men in a back line.

It is an entire team working to restrict the opposition from the moment they get the ball and a major feature of our play this season - even acccording to opposing managers - has been the speed and efficiency of our closing down.

In that respect King and Oakley have been outstanding because neither ball watch, they cover space, with King being additionally useful in the air as was demonstrated on several occasions Saturday.

Maybe i was a bit rash. King has pleasantly surprised me this season, and has stepped up well. Maybe I could've worded my post better.

Posted
No. <_<

I think Oakley's been alright this season so far to be honest, not as bad as you make out anyway. I'd still have him in my team despite a poor performance Saturday.

ive said it before and will say it again - City's success this season will be based upon the form and performances of the centre midfield - at this level, games will be won and lost in the middle of the park - and Oakley is a key player here - if he continues to put in average performances I would have no hesitation in trying a Wesa/King combination and giving Oakley a kick up the arse - in fact, drop Oakley for the Orient game and lets assess the effect of this

Posted

Henderson

Gilbert Hobbs Tunchev Berner

Gradel Oakley King Dyer

Howard, Fryatt

Subs: Morrison, Adams, Porter, Dickov, Campbell

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