Monk Posted 8 April 2009 Author Posted 8 April 2009 Tell you what I'm impressed by some of the people on this board, some of you guys have a great education and great careers.
Monk Posted 9 April 2009 Author Posted 9 April 2009 Just finished my personal statement and hopefully submitting my application to Kings College this evening for an MA in Environment Politics and Globalisation. Well excited, I just hope I can afford the bugger come september (If they offer me a place!)
Guest Bilo Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 I'm seriously considering undertaking an MPhil degree moving onto a PhD in the next year or two, massively getting the itch for some postgraduate study as I very nearly started a Masters after graduating before going into teaching. I now feel as though I'd prefer to teach adult learners, either in FE or HE and a postgraduate degree would obviously be essential to that. I was wondering if anyone had taken this route and if so, how they went about getting funding and a place. Hence the bumping of a four year old thread.
Daggers Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 I'm seriously considering undertaking an MPhil degree moving onto a PhD in the next year or two, massively getting the itch for some postgraduate study as I very nearly started a Masters after graduating before going into teaching. I now feel as though I'd prefer to teach adult learners, either in FE or HE and a postgraduate degree would obviously be essential to that. I was wondering if anyone had taken this route and if so, how they went about getting funding and a place. Hence the bumping of a four year old thread. The sooner you get out of the shit that is 21st Century education the better. Good luck either way.
Guest Bilo Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 The sooner you get out of the shit that is 21st Century education the better. Good luck either way. Teaching or learning? There seems to be an awful lot of disenchantment within the teaching profession generally, thanks to Gove and his cronies. The chance of studying for a PhD and going into lecturing and/or research appeals massively in the long-term. It has done for a while.
Monk Posted 25 March 2013 Author Posted 25 March 2013 Ha. Funny how life goes on. I was rejected from Kings, and since left London, moved to Scotland and started a company instead.... which worked out way better than doing a masters
BHAFC Braders Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 Hoping to do Sport & Media Ma , self funding it (thankfully have a bit put away)
RobHawk Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 Anyone thinking of doing a PG and wanting info on funding should read the recent Guardian Q and A although it is quite lengthy it should help answer any questions. Its based on funding for arts and humanities subjects but the advise is the same across all PG subjects, its just that research councils will differ.
MooseBreath Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 Do a proper worthwhile degree in the first place and you won't need to do a masters, for most people. Some people have got two masters and still can't make it work for them? Pathetic. At some point you must surely realise that its you rather than the education system that is to blame.
RobHawk Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 Do a proper worthwhile degree in the first place and you won't need to do a masters, for most people. Some people have got two masters and still can't make it work for them? Pathetic. At some point you must surely realise that its you rather than the education system that is to blame. That is quite possible one of the most stupid things you have ever said!
MooseBreath Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 That is quite possible one of the most stupid things you have ever said! You reckon? I did say "for most people". Allow me to explain, "most people" get a degree to further their careers. For most people a wisely chosen degree would be enough. There are very few cases where a masters will add significant worth to a well chosen degree purely in terms of employment prospects. The vast majority of employers would take a years relevant experience over a masters every day of the week. Of course there are a few instances where people are following paths which require a masters regardless of which undergrad degree they chose, but those people are in the minority.
leicsmac Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 You reckon? I did say "for most people". Allow me to explain, "most people" get a degree to further their careers. For most people a wisely chosen degree would be enough. There are very few cases where a masters will add significant worth to a well chosen degree purely in terms of employment prospects. The vast majority of employers would take a years relevant experience over a masters every day of the week. Of course there are a few instances where people are following paths which require a masters regardless of which undergrad degree they chose, but those people are in the minority. This is eminently sensible, but in these dark times a Masters degree has become almost a prerequisite for any reasonable-level professional job in the science sector. That's why I'm studying for one now - after I graduated from my undergraduate course (BSc Physics) I applied for many STEM jobs with no success as I appeared simply underqualified to employers. Thus I wasn't even able to get any relevant experience that I could take on to the future. Now I am where I am I'm at least getting interview offers. Companies - in my sector anyway - don't seem to want to look at plain old Bachelor graduates. I wonder how it is in different sectors.
RobHawk Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 This is eminently sensible, but in these dark times a Masters degree has become almost a prerequisite for any reasonable-level professional job in the science sector. That's why I'm studying for one now - after I graduated from my undergraduate course (BSc Physics) I applied for many STEM jobs with no success as I appeared simply underqualified to employers. Thus I wasn't even able to get any relevant experience that I could take on to the future. Now I am where I am I'm at least getting interview offers. Companies - in my sector anyway - don't seem to want to look at plain old Bachelor graduates. I wonder how it is in different sectors. This! and..... Its also used as a pathway by many into further study like a PHD. You can't just do a PHD after doing an UG degree. High Quality research is worth big bucks and we need to continue expanding this sector. We have some of the best scientists and engineers in the world and need to continue this further. Paying for any PG course is not easy as there's very little funding available. Don't be so small minded that you think people are doing it just for shits and giggles! I know many students who do Masters whilst also working full time jobs as this is the only way they can afford to study. They do the masters to help them take the next step in furthering their careers.
RowlattsFox Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 I funded my Postgraduate course through a Career Development Loan, slightly risky in terms of repayments but there is very little else available if you cannot self-fund or get a bursary.
Guest Bilo Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 This! and..... Its also used as a pathway by many into further study like a PHD. You can't just do a PHD after doing an UG degree. High Quality research is worth big bucks and we need to continue expanding this sector. We have some of the best scientists and engineers in the world and need to continue this further. Paying for any PG course is not easy as there's very little funding available. Don't be so small minded that you think people are doing it just for shits and giggles! I know many students who do Masters whilst also working full time jobs as this is the only way they can afford to study. They do the masters to help them take the next step in furthering their careers. You can use an MPhil as the first year of a PhD programme, converting after successful completion of the former.
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