BoneDog Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Not controversial. Just plain wrong. I can't imagine any Jew thinking that the slaughter of 6 million of their own people is a worthy sacrifice. Well, a few did. I wouldn't call them Jews though. It was the real Jews who suffered, while the ones who don't give a shit about their 'own people' benefitted
Dr The Singh Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 I wasn't calling 3/4 gen as immigrants, but they're not ethnicly English/british. Thrasian who is this person?Be nice if we were to get along for a change, but you can't force people to like eachother. I think in time Leicester will become around 5% white, the less it is white the more some whites will flee (white flight), eventually they'll be a city/town seperation of ethnicity in britain. Be interesting to see which ethnicity does the best. Human experiments is what world leaders love. There's no such thing as ethnically british, even the english have no defined ethnic structure, it's a mish mash, anyway, it doesn't matter what ethnicity someone is, what matters is there loyalty and there adherance to that land!! Infact, the biggest icon and cultural hero of the english, wasn't even born in England, St George was infact middle eastern!! You haven't the knowledge or knowhow to understand that these people are of this land.......those mofo's that live here and wave there indian\pakistani flags etc, don't realise that in India there called 'foreign monkies' and aren't considered of that land, they are considered english\british. Myself, I consider myself english, I am an english citizen born and BRED, but obviously my ethnic origin is of punjab!!! No need for experiments, if you study the history of the punjab, the migrants went on to make the land a very powerful and formidle force against the hands of tyranny. There are alot of benefits and negatives, in this case the benefits outwayed the negatives, in Leicester's case there's nothing to suggest otherwise also!!! But, this is Leicester, the future lies with integration, with the likes and mentality of you Obi and those ethnics, you will do nothing but to divide, the more people want this division, the worse it will get!!! Trust me, as long as there is wealth in the city, good services etc etc, we all will remain, if not it won't be just the whites that will be fleeing!!!
Dr The Singh Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 I have to say I really don't believe it's Thracian. I spoke to him on the phone the other evening to check he was ok and not ill, apparently along side his day job he's completely over doing his house and in is own words his PC is under a big pile of rubbish. He also said that he's been so busy he's not been to a single friendly game and is unlikely to get to any game before the season kicks off.As for Obi at best I just think he's a classic shit stirring troll and I have decided to no longer encourage replies from him. Thanks for the update dG, and if Thrac reads this, I apologise in advance, hopefully we'll catch a beer soon!!
l444ry Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Anyone trying to deny the extent of the holocaust is an dangerous idiot or ill informed twat. These are excerpts from Hoess' signed testimony given at the Post-War Nuremberg War Crime trials: http://www.auschwitz.dk/hoess.htm RUDOLF FRANZ FERDINAND HOESS, being first duly sworn, depose and say as follows: "I am forty six years old, and have been a member of the NSDAPI since 1922; a member of the SS since 1934; a member of the WaffenSS since 1939. I was a member from 1 December 1934 of the SS Guard Unit, the socalled Deathshead Formation (Totenkopf Verband). I have been constantly associated with the administration of concentration camps since 1934, serving at Dachau until 1938; then as Adjutant in Sachsenhausen from 1938 - 5/1/1940, when I was appointed Kommandant of Auschwitz. I commanded Auschwitz until 12/1/1943 and estimate that at least 2.5 million victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease making a total dead of about 3 million. This figure represents about 70-80% of all persons sent to Auschwitz as prisoners, the remainder having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industries; included among the executed and burned were approximately 20,000 Russian prisoners of war (previously screened out of prisoner-of-war cages by the Gestapo) who were delivered at Auschwitz in Wehrmacht transports operated by regular Wehrmacht officers and men. The remainder of the total number of victims included about 100,000 German Jews, and great numbers of citizens, mostly Jewish, from Holland, France, Belgium, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Greece, or other countries. We executed about 400,000 Hungarian Jews alone at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944. Mass executions by gassing commenced during the summer of 1941 and continued until fall 1944. I personally supervised executions at Auschwitz until 12/1/1943 and know by reason of my continued duties in the Inspectorate of Concentration Camps, WVHA, that these mass executions continued as stated above. All mass executions by gassing took place under the direct order, supervision, and responsibility of RSHA. I received all orders for carrying out these mass executions directly from RSHA. The 'Final Solution' of the Jewish question meant the complete extermination of all Jews in Europe. I was ordered to establish extermination facilities at Auschwitz in 6/1941. At that time, there were already in the General Government three other extermination camps: Belzek, Treblinka and Wolzek. These camps were under the Einsatzkommando of the Security Police and SD. I visited Treblinka to find out how they carried out their exterminations. The camp commandant at Treblinka told me that he had liquidated 80,000 in the course of one-half year. He was principally concerned with liquidating all the Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto. He used monoxide gas, and I did not think that his methods were very efficient. So when I set up the extermination building at Auschwitz, I used Zyklon B, which was a crystallized prussic acid which we dropped into the death chamber from a small opening. It took from 3-15 minutes to kill the people in the death chamber, depending upon climatic conditions. We knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped. We usually waited about one-half hour before we opened the doors and removed the bodies. After the bodies were removed our special Kommandos took off the rings and extracted the gold from the teeth of the corpses. Another improvement we made over Treblinka was that we built our gas chamber to accommodate 2000 people at one time whereas at Treblinka their 10 gas chambers only accommodated 200 people each. The way we selected our victims was as follows: We had two SS doctors on duty at Auschwitz to examine the incoming transports of prisoners. The prisoners would be marched by one of the doctors who would make spot decisions as they walked by. Those who were fit for work were sent into the camp. Others were sent immediately to the extermination plants. Children of tender years were invariably exterminated since by reason of their youth they were unable to work. Still another improvement we made over Treblinka was that at Treblinka the victims almost always knew that they were to be exterminated and at Auschwitz we endeavored to fool the victims into thinking that they were to go through a delousing process. Of course, frequently they realized our true intentions and we sometimes had riots and difficulties due to that fact. Very frequently women would hide their children under the clothes, but of course when we found them we would send the children in to be exterminated. We were required to carry out these exterminations in secrecy but of course the foul and nauseating stench from the continuous burning of bodies permeated the entire area and all of the people living in the surrounding communities knew that exterminations were going on at Auschwitz. We received from time to time special prisoners from the local Gestapo office. The SS doctors killed such prisoners by injections of benzine. Doctors had orders to write ordinary death certificates and could put down any reason at all for the cause of death. From time to time we conducted medical experiments on women inmates, including sterilization and experiments relating to cancer. Most of the people who died under these experiments had been already condemned to death by the Gestapo. I understand English as it is written above. The above statements are true; this declaration is made by me voluntarily and without compulsion; after reading over the statement I have signed and executed the same at Nuremberg, Germany, on the 4/5/1946. - Rudolf Hoess."
Guest Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Anyone trying to deny the extent of the holocaust is an dangerous idiot or ill informed twat.These are excerpts from Hoess' signed testimony given at the Post-War Nuremberg War Crime trials: http://www.auschwitz.dk/hoess.htm That has left me feeling very cold. The use of the word "extermination" just makes me shudder.
BoneDog Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 oh and i'm not saying the number of people killed has ever been exagerated, i dont think it has How come there were still over 5 million Jews in Europe after the war then? There weren't even 9 million before the war. And only about 500,000 in Germany, many of whom survived.
BoneDog Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Let's keep it going - it helps some people getting some weight off their chest!!! Maybe we could start thinking about establishing a "Helping Hand" phoneline for all Holocaust deniers, Jew haters and Homophobes! Which brings us back to the BNP. Just for the record, I'm neither! I know the Holocaust happened, I don't hate Jews (Spike Milligan one of my heroes) and I don't hate bummers
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 As for Obi at best I just think he's a classic shit stirring troll and I have decided to no longer encourage replies from him. You've got me wrong. I absolutely believe what i say. If you think im talking nonsense, prove me wrong. Can't workout why you have to be so negative.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Well, a few did. I wouldn't call them Jews though. It was the real Jews who suffered, while the ones who don't give a shit about their 'own people' benefitted Correct, and worse still, these maniacs encouraged the deaths of millions of fellow Jews, as they do to this day but on a smaller scale. Human sacrifice is part of their belief system.
BoneDog Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 and it was the American government who flew those planes into the twin towers! No-one flew planes into the WTC. It was either remote control with a homing beacon in the towers or it was a missile with added wings etc to look like a plane. There are many Americans who witnessed the planes who said "that was not a 'normal' plane. Even a few reporters and firemen said similar things.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 There's no such thing as ethnically british, even the english have no defined ethnic structure, it's a mish mash, anyway, it doesn't matter what ethnicity someone is, what matters is there loyalty and there adherance to that land!!But, this is Leicester, the future lies with integration, with the likes and mentality of you Obi and those ethnics, you will do nothing but to divide, the more people want this division, the worse it will get!!! Such racism. Who are you to racistly dictate who people are? Racists like you disgust me!! What if an asian doesn't wana integrate, what will their punishment be? Leicester is already divided, its called human rights, the human right to live the way asians and whites want to. Don't blame the people, they didn't create the divide.
BoneDog Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Anyone trying to deny the extent of the holocaust is an dangerous idiot or ill informed twat.These are excerpts from Hoess' signed testimony given at the Post-War Nuremberg War Crime trials: http://www.auschwitz.dk/hoess.htm I understand English as it is written above. The above statements are true; this declaration is made by me voluntarily and without compulsion; after reading over the statement I have signed and executed the same at Nuremberg, Germany, on the 4/5/1946. - Rudolf Hoess." Yeah right Hoess! I don't deny, just deny 6 million. Numbers don't add up (with all the immigrants who went to the US and other places and those left in Europe)
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Anyone trying to deny the extent of the holocaust is an dangerous idiot or ill informed twat. Correct. Children should be taught about all the holocausts that have occured over the last hundreds of years, and given factual proof regarding them.
breadandcheese Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Correct, and worse still, these maniacs encouraged the deaths of millions of fellow Jews, as they do to this day but on a smaller scale. Human sacrifice is part of their belief system. I've tried to stay away from this topic because of the breadth of b*llocks that is being written, but the one above takes the biscuit. "Human sacrifice is part of their belief system". What does that even mean? Your attempt to portray Englishness/Britishness as a race is ridiculous. You've completely misunderstood the concept of nationality and the nation state. Nation states are entirely human made, a concept naturally developed throughout political history of the last 2000 years. Anyone can therefore be French, British, American, etc, all at the stroke of a passport agency's pen. The fact that you try to equate your identity as an ethnic race based on your nationality is patently false.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 No-one flew planes into the WTC. It was either remote control with a homing beacon in the towers or it was a missile with added wings etc to look like a plane. There are many Americans who witnessed the planes who said "that was not a 'normal' plane. Even a few reporters and firemen said similar things. It is possible they were remote controlled, but i would suggest they got a few idiots to fly them, maybe semi-fly them. Evelyn Rothschild, now in his 70s, got married in London to a wealthy Zionist business woman named Lynn Forrester. They spent their wedding night in the White House. Just months before 911 they moved to New York and settled into their 18th floor luxury palace at Riverhouse where two private terraces offered them front row seats for the scheduled 911 show.
Dr The Singh Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Such racism. Who are you to racistly dictate who people are? Racists like you disgust me!!What if an asian doesn't wana integrate, what will their punishment be? Leicester is already divided, its called human rights, the human right to live the way asians and whites want to. Don't blame the people, they didn't create the divide. <_< Very amusing, who are you to dictate who's english or british, maybe you should look at some of the crap you've written before you decide who is racist, infact do you know what racism actually is???? Ethnicity of the english is niether defined or proven, nor is that of the punjabi's, so i'm racist against my own ethnic group, so get ur FACTS right, bud!!! I've said this many a time, if anyone doesn't like this nation and doesn't want to be a part of it, they can fooook off and live somewhere else!! To you every white and ethnic is divided, because you see everything with your ignorant tinted specs!! And what's this asians thing, how do you know that all asians think alike, mate your so full of dung it's unbelievable, to succeed in this nation especailly Leicester, you need education, jobs etc, the majority of the ethnics in Leicester are more successful then there white counterparts, the one's from the indian subcontinent have better qualifications, and better living standards, they have successful jobs and business, to do that you can't be enclosed, you have to be integrated. Just because they live in areas predominantly non white, does not mean anything, that's a choice. Those communities whether they are white or ethnic in Leicester, who choose to be ignorant and want to live in area's where it's there 'own' out of ingnorance have a lower chance of success lin life, because in the real world there's many shades of white and brown, enclosing yourself within your own in leicester is very limiting!!!
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 I've tried to stay away from this topic because of the breadth of b*llocks that is being written, but the one above takes the biscuit. "Human sacrifice is part of their belief system". What does that even mean?Your attempt to portray Englishness/Britishness as a race is ridiculous. You've completely misunderstood the concept of nationality and the nation state. Nation states are entirely human made, a concept naturally developed throughout political history of the last 2000 years. Anyone can therefore be French, British, American, etc, all at the stroke of a passport agency's pen. The fact that you try to equate your identity as an ethnic race based on your nationality is patently false. You ask me that first question in a positive and nice manner, and i'll answer it. Thats your opinion, but don't be so racist as to push that filth upon me.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 <_< Very amusing, who are you to dictate who's english or british, maybe you should look at some of the crap you've written before you decide who is racist, infact do you know what racism actually is????I've said this many a time, if anyone doesn't like this nation and doesn't want to be a part of it, they can fooook off and live somewhere else!! To you every white and ethnic is divided I dictate who and what i am, as you do for yourself. Racism http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/racism?view=uk I agree with your 2nd point. No, i don't see every white/asian divided. Learn to read.
breadandcheese Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 You ask me that first question in a positive and nice manner, and i'll answer it.Thats your opinion, but don't be so racist as to push that filth upon me. By your definition, you are a different ethnic group to an American, a different ethnic group to a Frenchman, etc. You've clearly misunderstood the concept of a nation state.
Guest Bilo Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Correct, and worse still, these maniacs encouraged the deaths of millions of fellow Jews, as they do to this day but on a smaller scale. Human sacrifice is part of their belief system. Absolutely moronic. You clearly have as much idea about Judaism as I do about goat herding in Mongolia. You're embarrassing yourself now fella and you aren't making it any better by taking on someone like breadandcheese.
Dr The Singh Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 I dictate who and what i am, as you do for yourself. Racism http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/racism?view=ukI agree with your 2nd point. No, i don't see every white/asian divided. Learn to read. Hold on a minute, I think you should read what you have written first!! I quote: Be nice if we were to get along for a change, but you can't force people to like eachother. I think in time Leicester will become around 5% white, the less it is white the more some whites will flee (white flight), eventually they'll be a city/town seperation of ethnicity in britain. Be interesting to see which ethnicity does the best. Human experiments is what world leaders love I rest my case!!!!
breadandcheese Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Absolutely moronic. You clearly have as much idea about Judaism as I do about goat herding in Mongolia. You're embarrassing yourself now fella and you aren't making it any better by taking on someone like breadandcheese. I appreciate your vote of confidence, but I wouldn't describe myself as some intellectual heavyweight. Mind you, next to this guy a lobotomised p00 would seem like university challenge material.
Guest Bilo Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 I appreciate your vote of confidence, but I wouldn't describe myself as some intellectual heavyweight. Mind you, next to this guy a lobotomised p00 would seem like university challenge material. You're certainly a damn sight more knowledgable than many on here and you speak more sense an' all! Though I agree it wouldn't take Stephen Fry to make this guy look small.
MC Prussian Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 You ask me that first question in a positive and nice manner, and i'll answer it.Thats your opinion, but don't be so racist as to push that filth upon me. What filth? Just because it is mentioned that ANYONE can be of ANY nationality just by the stroke of a pencil (for the signature) in a passport? Nationality is an artificial human construct. Or to put it simple (for simpletons): Nationality does not equal Ethnicity. If you're so proud of a certain nationality, then it's mostly paper-based!!! Someone's got a proper fetish there.
BoneDog Posted 28 July 2009 Posted 28 July 2009 Absolutely moronic. You clearly have as much idea about Judaism as I do about goat herding in Mongolia. You're embarrassing yourself now fella and you aren't making it any better by taking on someone like breadandcheese. I don't think he was talking about Judaism to be fair though. The Jews suffered, the ones who don't care about Judaism are the ones he meant I think.
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